'64 223 Carb
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Mountain Pass
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'64 223 Carb
I have a '64 F100 with a 223 and an Autolite 1100 carb that has begun leaking all over the place when the throttle gets opened. It probably needs a rebuild but I've discovered a crack in the body and I'm now thinking it might be better to just get a new one. I'm hoping to get some ideas from the more experienced as to how I should approach solving this problem. There are rebuilt ones on feebay for about $260. New ones from Hong Kong for $150-$200. One guy has a rebuilt he bought for a '68 F100 with a 6 cylinder 240 that he threw a rod in for $160 shipped. I also notice that all the ads mention automatic transmissions (mine's a manual) I don't see what that would matter. Is there a reason to mention that? Any suggestions/advice on what I should do here would be much appreciated!
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No clue about those single barrel carbs, but with the Autolite 2100/4100, the manual transmission trucks had linkage for a manual choke, but not the autos, I think. So, you might want to investigate that. It was beginning to get to get difficult to locate the manual transmission carbs.Have you got a factory manual? I’ll bet you can verify by checking a couple drawings.
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What about just getting another body and swapping parts with a rebuild kit?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/rebuildable...EAAOSwl8Vdt3mA
https://www.ebay.com/itm/rebuildable...EAAOSwl8Vdt3mA
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Mountain Pass
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That's an idea! But this is a vehicle I use a lot for work and would be better off getting it back on the road quickly so I'm leaning towards just dropping the dough and getting something I can slap on and go.
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1963/64 F100/600 & N500/600 223 1V I-6 with M/T // 1963/64 Galaxie 223 1V I-6 with 3 M/T
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 2 = 800-476-9653.
btw: The ebay 1100 carb (post #3) is used with A/T
Mountain Pass
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This is the one i'm running. Says it's new and from Florida... Seems to be fine so far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Truck-...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Truck-...53.m1438.l2649
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This is the one i'm running. Says it's new and from Florida... Seems to be fine so far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Truck-...53.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Truck-...53.m1438.l2649
ebay ad says 223 V6
(sigh)
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Check carefully in the specifications section in your Truck shop manual exactly what carburetor shipped with your particular engine & gearing. By that I mean inlet valve, venturi size, booster cluster, jetting, power valve etc, etc., a lot of carburetors look the same on the outside but aren't quite the same on the inside.
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Check carefully in the specifications section in your Truck shop manual exactly what carburetor shipped with your particular engine & gearing. By that I mean inlet valve, venturi size, booster cluster, jetting, power valve etc, etc., a lot of carburetors look the same on the outside but aren't quite the same on the inside.
The problem is, is the OP's carb the original? 1100 series used from 1962 thru 1969 for Passenger Cars, Trucks, Econolines and Bronco's with 144/170/200/223/240/262/300 I-6's.
Some of these carbs have the carb ID tag number stamped on the base, OP should take a look-see. In 1970, Ford replaced the Auto-Lite 1100's w/Carter 1V's.
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C3AZ-9510-AY (replaced C3TZ-9510-AF) .. 1100 series Autolite 1V Carburetor / C3TZ-9510-AF carb ID # C4TF-AV (Motorcraft CA-609) / Obsolete
C3TZ-9510-AF applications: 1963/64 F100/600, N500/600, P100 223 I-6 with M/T
The replacement C3AZ-9510-AY carb also replaced C3TZ-9510-AA .. See post #5 for further info, there are 2 of these carbs available NOS
C3TZ-9510-AF applications: 1963/64 F100/600, N500/600, P100 223 I-6 with M/T
The replacement C3AZ-9510-AY carb also replaced C3TZ-9510-AA .. See post #5 for further info, there are 2 of these carbs available NOS
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Mountain Pass
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Well, in a moment of bravery and desperation, I bought all that I could find locally yesterday which was a rebuild kit from Napa ($40, really?) I leaned heavily on the available youtube videos and managed to get the carb apart and back together. I had to bend and modify a wrench to tighten the engine side mounting bolt down but made it happen. The truck started right up and no leaks! BTW, the crack is on the underside of the vacuum fitting and is packed with gook. Could be an old fix or maybe dried up oil (this truck used to have an oil bath filter setup) I figure at the very least I'll be OK long enough to do some shopping around for a backup carb. I tried to take pics of the crack but it was too dark out..., at 5PM. Thanks daylight savings time! Once again, thanks for all your helpful input!