2020 Super Duty
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The PCO states must take delivery by 1.2.2020. So how do you get around that requirement?
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A PCO is meant to inspire someone to buy during the stated time frame. As Oaks stated, they expire. Getting a PCO now, and expecting it to be locked is something that I’ve never heard of, so I guess we will see...
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YEP, that is what has me sweating. I have VIN, but not build date. Taking a 6-week build to deliver time frame I am already at 15 Dec and not sure when the plant shuts down for Xmas. But getting delivery by 1.2.20 is looking weak and so is my $3500 money if I cannot take del!!!! I will buy anyhow, the $3500 is not a make or break, but sure nice to have...
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From: WNY
YEP, that is what has me sweating. I have VIN, but not build date. Taking a 6-week build to deliver time frame I am already at 15 Dec and not sure when the plant shuts down for Xmas. But getting delivery by 1.2.20 is looking weak and so is my $3500 money if I cannot take del!!!! I will buy anyhow, the $3500 is not a make or break, but sure nice to have...
The latest PCO’s all seem to have a 1-2-20 expiration date.
The new SD Job 1 is projected to be 11-3-19, without knowing what options may be on factory hold, they will probably start with strictly fleet/municipal with Christmas break factory shut down looming. Delivery date is potentially early January
Coincidence?
I think we all know that PCOs are about jump starting stagnant sales areas or cleaning up leftover models.
Same here Don, it would be very nice, but it is what it is..
Given we have both ordered almost every factory option, we may not see our trucks until mid January.
You however do have a shot. You have a VIN.
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Well, there hasn’t been a sign of any PCOs being issues lately. Nothing... Trust me, I’ve been fishing..
The latest PCO’s all seem to have a 1-2-20 expiration date.
The new SD Job 1 is projected to be 11-3-19, without knowing what options may be on factory hold, they will probably start with strictly fleet/municipal with Christmas break factory shut down looming. Delivery date is potentially early January
Coincidence?
PCOs now are all about cleaning up leftover models.
Given we have both ordered almost every factory option, we may not see our trucks until mid January.
Same here Don, it would be very nice, but it is what it is..
You however do have a shot. You have a VIN.
The latest PCO’s all seem to have a 1-2-20 expiration date.
The new SD Job 1 is projected to be 11-3-19, without knowing what options may be on factory hold, they will probably start with strictly fleet/municipal with Christmas break factory shut down looming. Delivery date is potentially early January
Coincidence?
PCOs now are all about cleaning up leftover models.
Given we have both ordered almost every factory option, we may not see our trucks until mid January.
Same here Don, it would be very nice, but it is what it is..
You however do have a shot. You have a VIN.
PCO says: "take delivery new retail delivery from an authorized Ford"...
Ford has made an offer to me by name, I accepted said offer by ordering a F 450. In doing so I imply I have the ability to pay for and drive away with. I show up in person at my dealer where I placed the order and ask for the keys to my new truck.
Dealer replies that it has not arrived yet ...Sorry, but Ford made an offer, there was an acceptance by me when I placed an order and I put $500 down. Then Ford is in default on the contract if they cannot deliver, I will let them off the hook if they honor the PCO at the time of THEIR delivery to me!
I can win in court!!!
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Kentucky makes Superduty, Expedition, and Navigator. They can put out 80+ vehicles per hour.
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I just did a Google search '2020 Ford Super Duty JOB 1'
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Contracts 101
"Most contracts only need to contain two elements to be legally valid:
- All parties must be in agreement (after an offer has been made by one party and accepted by the other).
- Something of value must be exchanged -- such as cash, services, or goods (or a promise to exchange such an item) -- for something else of value."
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If this is true, Ford really screwed up. This should have been done months ago with so called "Production" software. After the initial testing it should just be fine tuning without major changes. If major changes need to be made, time to replace the engineer for not doing their homework.
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I have an awfully hard time believing they are being delayed due to awaiting EPA certification. Not doubting whoever that posted it was told that....I just find that really hard to believe that Ford would not apply for that far enough in advance and make sure it is moving along to certification in a timely manner considering how much money they would lose idling KTP super duty lines on a daily basis, not to mention all the other logistics set in place to start production. Plus we aren't dealing with Obama's EPA anymore. I wouldn't think the current admin would cost a US automaker hundreds of millions over some paperwork. If they delay it anymore they should just skip the 2020 model year and start 21s in a few months 
While I don't have my VIN yet, I texted my dealer sales manager and he said my truck was scheduled to be built this month per his rep (ordered 8/23). So truly, everything is all over the map. They will arrive when they arrive I guess.
While I don't have my VIN yet, I texted my dealer sales manager and he said my truck was scheduled to be built this month per his rep (ordered 8/23). So truly, everything is all over the map. They will arrive when they arrive I guess.
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If this is true, Ford really screwed up. This should have been done months ago with so called "Production" software. After the initial testing it should just be fine tuning without major changes. If major changes need to be made, time to replace the engineer for not doing their homework.