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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BC2019F250
The truck has a tow/haul mode, I'm not sure why you would need to lock out a gear.
It's simple really. When I hauling my 15K fifth wheel in constantly rolling steep Hill Country, I know that when it drops into sixth near the bottom of a hill it will be right back in fifth in a matter of seconds. If I lock out sixth I eliminate that quick shifting and everything is smoother and more consistent. If you don't tow heavy or encounter those kinds of terrain then you don't need to worry about it. But it is a great feature for those of us who do.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFixing
Sounds like a lot of extra work to me.
Yes, Pushing that button is a huge amount of work...
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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You have to remember to shift it back up again is the hardest part.

Oh and on my 6.7 I like locking it like in 3rd around town. It always wants to go into 6th. Towing heavy in traffic.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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If you're towing heavy, locking out 6th gear is a good idea, especially if in rolling hills. Sometimes you will need to lock out 5th as well. This works wonders and keeps the RPMs up so you don't loose too much speed uphill before it decides to downshift on it's own. When I was in the Blue Ridge mountains when I had my TT, I'd lock out 5th and 6th and was able to maintain speed up the hills without issue. A few times it went to 3rd, but kept pace with traffic nonetheless. It's also helpful going downhill as well.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by maineiacs
Where can I find these features documented? I’ve used tow haul previously on my 2010 F250 but never heard of locking out a gear before. I want to use this truck safely for many years.
OK, we'll try this again. As the saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him read a manual." The page references in the manual were already given and I think were given yet again. I'll take it one step further and actually post the info here. All of the questions can be answered by reading the text of the manual.

The quick start guide you received with a new purchase has a good infographic for all of the features. The descriptions are a bit lacking and way too brief; the QSG doesn't really address the questions here. But, I grabbed the picture from the QSG to reference where the shift/gear selector is (8) and where the Tow/Haul mode button is (9).

Page 207 walks through the function of the Tow/Haul mode. This is also discussed frequently on these forums. You can learn a lot more by searching here.

Page 208 walks through the function of the "SelectShift" transmission feature and the "Progressive Range Selection (PRS)" feature. There is also a nice diagram showing the layout of the +, -, and Tow/Haul buttons on the gear shift lever.

I hope this helps provide the descriptions that have been summarized above (and elsewhere on these forums).



 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mptjelgin
It's simple really. When I hauling my 15K fifth wheel in constantly rolling steep Hill Country, I know that when it drops into sixth near the bottom of a hill it will be right back in fifth in a matter of seconds. If I lock out sixth I eliminates that quick shifting and everything is smoother and more consistent. If you don't tow heavy or encounter those kinds of terrain then you don't need to worry about it. But it is a great feature for those of us who do.
That's probably why I haven't used it yet. I see a lot of people talking about locking out the gears, but I've never noticed the need, because I don't ever notice it shifting around. However, I only tow 8200-8300 lbs, and the only hills I've encountered were some passes in PA on the turnpike on the way to Hershey, and some on I-75 on the way to Pigeon Forge, neither of which were more than a 3-4° by the scale on the gauge cluster. Anything steeper I've encountered have been on back country roads where I'm not rolling in the higher gears anyways.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
That's probably why I haven't used it yet. I see a lot of people talking about locking out the gears, but I've never noticed the need, because I don't ever notice it shifting around. However, I only tow 8200-8300 lbs, and the only hills I've encountered were some passes in PA on the turnpike on the way to Hershey, and some on I-75 on the way to Pigeon Forge, neither of which were more than a 3-4° by the scale on the gauge cluster. Anything steeper I've encountered have been on back country roads where I'm not rolling in the higher gears anyways.
You nailed it. With that weight and that terrain you don't need it. But it's nice to know it is there and give it a try once or twice so that if you ever do need it you are familiar with how to enable it.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 10:28 AM
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I lock out 6th if I am on hilly 2 lane road with 55 mpg speed limits while towing, That puts the 6.7 L engine in a better power band.

I also lock out 6th when on the interstate while towing if I know upcoming hills might cause my tranny to downshift to far to 4th trying to keep the cruise control happy. Downshifting to 5th prevents the surprise downshift to 4th.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
I lock out 6th if I am on hilly 2 lane road with 55 mpg speed limits while towing, That puts the 6.7 L engine in a better power band.

I also lock out 6th when on the interstate while towing if I know upcoming hills might cause my tranny to downshift to far to 4th trying to keep the cruise control happy. Downshifting to 5th prevents the surprise downshift to 4th.
That's the secret, keep the engine in it's power band. The gas will, of course, rev higher, but keep pace pretty good so long as it's in it's band. Like you stated, interstate hills at their speeds can be tricky regardless of gas or diesel. The gas will likely go to 4th, though, unlike the diesel. I've gotten used to it with the 6.2 I had and even enjoyed hearing it purr when working hard. Generally the sweet spot was 3500-4000 RPM, so not too loud or obnoxious.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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Will the torque converter lock up in the lower gears if top one(s) locked out?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 01:46 PM
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Yes. For example, our truck’s 6R140 locks up in third-, fourth-, fifth-, and sixth gears. If I lock out fifth and sixth, it will still lock up in third and fourth.

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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
I lock out 6th if I am on hilly 2 lane road with 55 mpg speed limits while towing, That puts the 6.7 L engine in a better power band.

I also lock out 6th when on the interstate while towing if I know upcoming hills might cause my tranny to downshift to far to 4th trying to keep the cruise control happy. Downshifting to 5th prevents the surprise downshift to 4th.
I do the same. Also, keeping the rpm's up increases cooling efficiency.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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so you have instant throttle response and do not have issues with constant gear searching.
This is an Awesome feature especially in the Mountains
 
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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BC2019F250
The truck has a tow/haul mode, I'm not sure why you would need to lock out a gear.
When towing heavy in Colorado coolant temps get high and the fan never wants to shut off. I can lock out 6th and sometimes 5th and coolant temps drop. Let the coolant temp get too high and it will put you in reduced power mode.

Plus you get more engine braking with the upper gears locked out. Tow haul by itself isn't so great. I take it you have never towed before?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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