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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 07:15 AM
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actually, no. That is why we asked about the pedal assembly. If it was a used unit then I would have steered towards a worn pin and the need for the hiem joint. Since he bought a new pedal assembly, we were looking at other possibilities. I agree that the hiem joint is a good upgrade but probably not the source of his current issue.

He hasn’t reported back yet to see if reclocking the rod helped with his problem
Honestly, if you're running the stock setup at this point, ... it's just silly. It's such a bad design.

And yes, a little bit of wear on this system, even just the missing of that plastic bushing can cause the issue he is describing.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 08:44 PM
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Videos do not work for me.

1/2 on the same shift fork and slider
3/4 on the same shift fork and slider
5/R on the same shift fork and slider

Either way, sounds like the clutch is not releasing fully. Check the fork throw, there is a specification for it in the factory manual.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-psd
actually, no. That is why we asked about the pedal assembly. If it was a used unit then I would have steered towards a worn pin and the need for the hiem joint. Since he bought a new pedal assembly, we were looking at other possibilities. I agree that the hiem joint is a good upgrade but probably not the source of his current issue.

He hasn’t reported back yet to see if reclocking the rod helped with his problem
I never got a chance to pull the arm off and re clock it, I almost had it off but I ended up putting it back on and just shifting it so it won’t grind so 2nd to 1st and 2nd to R. I ended having another problem with the truck and now it won’t start.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 08:52 PM
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Thinking about it, I probably should give mine a little squirty squirt of some slippy slip.
I should do the same. Do you use silicone spray?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 05:35 AM
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I should do the same. Do you use silicone spray?
I'll probably hit it with fluid film.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 03:18 PM
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Hey guys so I finally got around to re clocking it and this did not solve my problem. It seems like it only sits in one spot to the master rod can go on properly. Is there anything else to try besides synchros? It’s just weird that 1st and R used to work perfectly and then all the sudden out of nowhere now I have to go from 2nd to 1st or and to R so it won’t slam into 1st or R. When I installed the trans about 4 months ago everything was operating perfect with no grinding into 1st or R. Also weird that it if I push the clutch in and go straight to 4th it will grind really bad. I was told the trans was rebuilt before I picked up up, but who knows. Anyway is there anything else that could be going wrong? Maybe clutch engagement? As I said before i put a brand new south bend stock power clutch in it
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 03:20 PM
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And I thought there would be signs of synchros wearing over time not just happening right away
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 03:26 PM
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Also if I push the clutch in and wait like 5 seconds then very slowly shift it into 1st or R, it will shift smoothly/smoother.
 
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How much does the slave extend?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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So I just found out I clicked the arm the wrong way.. I clocked it towards the firewall now but I cannot push the master cylinder rod in so it can go on the arm. I’ve been here for hours trying to get it to compress a little bit, but it will not go
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 07:58 PM
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I got it on and truck was still slamming into 1st and R, also now the truck won’t move when it’s in gear until The clutch pedal is almost all the way out, so I have a feeling I have the arm clocked to far towards the firewall. What is the proper way the pushrod goes onto the arm? I had the arm clocked so I had to push the master cylinder pushrod in a good amount to be able to connect it. Is the arm supposed to just be clocked so the pushrod lines up with it without having to push the rod in to get it on? Also when I connected the pushrod I had the clutch pedal depressed (not pushed in) am I supposed to have it pushed to the floor when I connect it?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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The peddle should be out in the "going down the road" position. The push rod should align with the pin, maybe need to be pushed in an eighth inch to slip on the pin.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by farmert
The peddle should be out in the "going down the road" position. The push rod should align with the pin, maybe need to be pushed in an eighth inch to slip on the pin.

Ya I must have clocked it to far because I was really struggling to get the push rod on
 
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Old Nov 6, 2019 | 09:05 PM
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Ya I must have clocked it to far because I was really struggling to get the push rod on
If you need a picture, I can take one of mine tomorrow morning.
 
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If you need a picture, I can take one of mine tomorrow morning.

Ya man that would be great!
 
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