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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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Motor Identification

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I have came across a 429/460 big block and cannot tell which it is

Ive read and read this forum for help and cant tell what I have
Any help is greatly appreciated

Guys claims its a 429 out of a LTD

Intake numer : 2 DOVE 9425B

Heads : D2VE-AA

Carb : D-2AF AB

This is all the info i could find on the motor

It does look to have a crank spacer between the timing cover and balancer on the

This is the first time ive messed with any old school fords
im in my 30's and have always messed with LSX motors

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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim66
I have come across a 429/460 big block and cannot tell which it is. I've read and read this forum for help and can't tell what I have.

Guys claims its a 429 out of a LTD

Carb: D2AF-AB
Assuming the carb is original to the engine:

ID tag number: D2AF-AB = Ford part number: D2AZ-9510-M .. 4V Carburetor (Motorcraft CA-788-A) / Obsolete

Applications: Internal balance 429: 1972 LTD/Marquis (except Police Cruiser), Torino & Thunderbird.

1971/73 429/460 share the same block, the bore is the same, the stroke is different.

You have to measure the stroke to determine what size it is.

The numbers you posted that I deleted are no help, because they are related to both the 429 and 460.

D1VE-6015-AB or A1B or A2B: I've typed the 1971/78 and early 1979 internal balance block casting numbers, D9TE-6015-AB 1979/97 external balance block casting number dozens of times on FTE in multiple forums.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Thanks for help
I was betting this was what i was gonna have to do
Thanks again

oh Its in a 1979 f150 long bed
its pretty rough but the motor does run
Any idea what a fair price might be
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Slim66
Thanks for help. I was betting this was what i was gonna have to do

It's in a 1979 F150 long bed, it's pretty rough but the motor does run.

Any idea what a fair price might be
I have no idea what the value is, but...

Trucks located in the dry desert southwest (AZ, NV, SoCal) are more desirable, because we have no rust problems.

No one can evaluate anything without multiple pictures.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I have no idea what the value is, but...

Trucks located in the dry desert southwest (AZ, NV, SoCal) are more desirable, because we have no rust problems.

No one can evaluate anything without multiple pictures.



 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 01:59 PM
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All I want is the motor
But I scared of it because idk what it is
From my research I have learned that the heads are bad from detonation

I have a 79 Ford already with jus a lil 302
Well it's my dad's

Wanted to swap it for him

 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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The only thing you really want is the crankshaft. Until you pull the pan and get eyes(pictures) on crank you will never know for sure. Its like the difference between 360 and 390, the crankshaft.

Might be able to tell from balancer if you knew the engine was never touched or switched, but that's taking a chance as well.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:16 PM
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I would get it as long as I could put a big cam in it and not have to worry about changing the heads and a bunch or other stuff
I want it to sound good and thats all. Just a Saturday night ride.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by myrtlehead
The only thing you really want is the crankshaft. Until you pull the pan and get eyes(pictures) on crank you will never know for sure. Its like the difference between 360 and 390, the crankshaft.

Might be able to tell from balancer if you knew the engine was never touched or switched, but that's taking a chance as well.
Block casting number will determine if it's an internal or external balance. I listed the 1971/78 and early 1979 internal balance block casting numbers in post #2.

External balance 460 introduced mid-year 1979, used thru 1997. Block casting number: D9TE-6015-AB
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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The last truck I almost bought that claimed was a 429 (was a 460)had a 2" gap between engine and trans. He started the engine and I waited for the flywheel to fly out from the giant gap. I asked why he did it and he replied "can't get a 400 to pull anything". Had modified t-bird motor mounts. Still don't no what headers he used, but he heated them and bent them to fit.

Only 429 thunderjet I ever had was in a 1969 ford xl. Then it went into a truck.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:37 PM
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hahah
yeah this is kinda like that
The motor is not mounted and someone has hacked and welded two oil pans together
So i know i would need a driveshaft motor mounts and an oil pan right off

A company call L&L makes a swap kit to put a big block in the this model truck
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:42 PM
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check behind the harmonic balancer there is a spacer there it will have a weight on it if it is external balanced and just a spacer if internal. I would not be afraid of it either way both damn good engines. Does it run? and how well? do a valve job re-ring it put roller timing set in and bring it back to zero timing and have a hay day
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:46 PM
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would it be much trouble to find a picture of what you are talking about
it does have a spacer on the crank
but i really dont know what im looking for either

It kinda of reminded me of a timing geat sprocket kinda lol or at least whats on this motor
 
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L&L makes swaps easy and I do like their stuff.

You need to pull the pan and inspect the crank. 429's are hard to find but worth it, especially when you have places like L&L for swaps.
 
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