I pull a 36' long 5th wheel that weighs 15,500 full loaded over the Continental Divide here in Colorado. That means I'm towing up mountain passes that exceed 11,000' in altitude. I used to tow my trailer with my 2006 F350 with the 6.0 and that truck slowed down a bit on the passes. I now have a 2019 F350 with the 6.7. The torque and power is amazing when towing. Not even pushing the truck I can easily drive the speed limit on the highways on those passes. I personally can't see where I'd need another 115 ft lbs of torque while towing.

 

A bit disappointed as well. With all the engine upgrades and new tranny I believe they could have hit the 500 hp and 1100 ft/ilb without issue. I think they are sandbagging and will provide this in a year or two with the SAME engine. Also the torque better not be limited in lower gears as I have seen it is not in the GMC. So that would be a major faux pas in my opinion.

 

Well they wanted to beat Ram... Box checked

 

Disappointed...that’s funny...

If the right internals and fuel volume potentials are there.. like the old 6.4L to make 1,200+ , expect the tuners to make it available by spring.

 

That extra $1,700 is going into Ford's warranty liability account. They may need it.

 

The new GM's are torque limited contrary to the info that has been released saying that they're is no torque management. The Ram with the aisin transmission has no torque management at all but it de-fuels heavily between shifts. The ford is almost guaranteed to have torque limited as the 10 speed is still a "140" and the current 6r140 isn't enough with the 2019 power rating to not be torque managed, let alone a 25hp and 115ft lbs jump.

 

So, do we know all the other numbers, like GVWR, tow ratings etc. on various model/motor combos?

 

Missed the point entirely. I am not interested in TUNED anything. I am speaking of factory warranty numbers.

 

2022 when it will be 1100 lb/ft and 525 hp . It will never end.

 

That big D will give you 25mpg, I can get 21-22 out of my '19...yes I do! BUT, I leave my place at 1712 ft El and drive to San Antonio at 600 ft El, about 30 mi so I am driving downhill.

Then there is another problem, 6-8 thousand lbs of Barn Door...errr Truck...its the truck that holds you back, not the engine.

Example: '03 Jeep Rubicon OEM, 6 sp, 4:10 gears 16+ mpg on hwy day in day out: Ordered some parts for it from a machine shop just off I 35 S of Ok border, I am in Ft Worth. I had removed my roll cage and as a result, the windshield was down. I get call late afternoon, they have my parts ready,m but will be closed on Sat for Labor Day. I look at my watch and I can just make it. Jump in Jeep, no roll bars, windshield down, drive over to I 35 and fill with gas, head out. I make it, pick up parts and turn S to home. Get to my exit and look at the gas gage, the needle has barely moved...cannot be, should have used almost half a tank. I pull into the same gas station and same pump. Top tank as always and compute gals to miles driven...26.3 mpg.

NO BARN DOOR!

 

Wow....21-22mpg.....you need to teach me how to drive! And that’s not flat land you’re talking about......even though the elevation change! You’re friggin amazing.17 oaks!

 

The thing about the 7.3 is the torque curve. Or the lack of one. Just off idle it has 400 lbs of torque and goes up from there. I think its going to sell huge.

 

If’n ya want a gasser to give ya a real woody, mebee this is what ya need!!!!!!!! LOL

The Ford GAA engine is an American all-aluminum 32-valve DOHC 60-degree V8 engine engineered and produced by the Ford Motor Company just before, and during, World War II. It features twin Stromberg NA-Y5-G carburetors,[2] dual magnetos and twin spark plugs making up a full dual ignitionsystem,[2] and crossflow induction.[3] It displaces 1,100 cu in (18 l) and puts out well over 1,000 pound-feet (1,400 N⋅m) of torque from idle to 2,200 rpm. The factory-rated output was 500 hp (370 kW) at 2,600 rpm.

 

They need to stop worrying about tow ratings and tq. I bought the f450 because I tow heavy but enough is enough. Pretty hard to find a trailer that is rated for the weight these trucks are. Any heavier tow rating and you should be having a heavier unit pulling it. I am more concerned about fuel mileage for my business. The ford is the worst of the big three. I was hoping with good driving habits I could do well but I am plain disappointed in the ford. It burns 20% more
fuel than the dodge pulling the same trailer with the same driver. I even tried dropping my speed down and running in manual mode to avoid downshifting and upshifting earlier which did help but it is hurting my bottom line. Very happy with the capability of the f450. The brakes and front axle are amazing but I think more thought needs to be put to fuel efficiency. I drove a new class 8 truck with a gcvw of 60000lbs and got within 1mpg of my ford at 34000 lbs. The class 8 trucks all compete for best mpg but that seems to be lost in the pickup wars. Makes it hard for business owners like myself who use the pickups everyday for work.

 

And I find the opposite to be true......somewhat. Running without a load the Ram does a little better than the Fords, but loaded the Fords do a little better than the Ram. Same load, same roads, same speeds, same conditions, same driver (ME). It comes out kind of a wash.