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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 07:42 PM
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When to do first oil change?

What’s everyone’s opinion on the best time to do the first oil change. I know it doesn’t hurt to do it early. Currently I’m at 2,600 miles. I’m thinking about doing it at 3,000 miles, 6,000, miles 10,000 miles and then every 5k after that. Or do I just wait until 5,000 and change it every 5k after that?

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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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I do mine every 5K including first change.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 08:00 PM
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Lots of opinions here:

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/when-...mation-372751/
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 08:34 PM
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I did my first oil change at 5,000 miles, and that is going continue to be my standard oil change interval.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 08:54 PM
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I go by the OLM.

Usually end up ~9500 miles.
Anything less and you are just wasting money.

Some people choose to waste money for piece of mind.
That's fine also.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 06:54 AM
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Too many strong opinions that turn into which oil is best, use only MC filters and you're wasting money if you do it any way that's outside the recommendations of the owner's guide.

It is my opinion that the car builders have a cache of information that clearly illustrates when most new car buyers trade or sell their vehicles and then come back to purchase new again.

It is my opinion that the car builders are establishing maintenance recommendations based on this information to lower the cost of ownership for the initial owner of the vehicle. Car builders aren't making any money on the resale of said vehicle.

It is also my opinion that the manufacturer's recommendations are adequate and exceeding the minimum service recommendations certainly won't hurt your vehicle.

In my case: 2011 F-150 ecoboost

5K dump cycles, first oil change was done at 2500 miles at dealer's expense, 5K thereafter.

Air filter changed every 25K miles, recommended at 30K

Coolant flushed at 90K miles, recommended at 110K or eight years

Transmission oil and filter changed at 90K miles, recommended at 150,000 miles towing or not.

If I had planned from the beginning to trade out at 100K miles, I wouldn't have done any of this and I would have saved a bunch of coin. But, I'm looking at the next 100K miles of ownership instead of the next new truck.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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I have to wonder how many think about, or even care about, the environmental impact of the disposing of the millions of gallons of perfectly good oil every year.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemtn
I have to wonder how many think about, or even care about, the environmental impact of the disposing of the millions of gallons of perfectly good oil every year.

If it's ending up in a landfill then that's an issue but if it's being reclaimed correctly then it's going to good use as recycled oil or fuel or some other use.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 02:22 PM
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The factory filter on my super duty had a bad anti drain back valve so I just went ahead and changed the oil with the filter at 900 miles. I will go to my normal 3000 mile internal now, I drive alot of short trips so that's long enough.

Normally I would change the oil the first time around 1500 miles.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2019 | 07:43 PM
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Thanks for the opinions. Currently I’m leaning towards changing it sooner rather than later. I had a 2011 Forester that had to have the short black replaced at 92,000 miles. Originally the oil change interval was 7,500 miles and it was fine for the first 60,000 miles after that it would burn oil like crazy. I have a feeling Subaru learned from that because they changed the interval to 6,000 now.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by adock
Thanks for the opinions. Currently I’m leaning towards changing it sooner rather than later. I had a 2011 Forester that had to have the short black replaced at 92,000 miles. Originally the oil change interval was 7,500 miles and it was fine for the first 60,000 miles after that it would burn oil like crazy. I have a feeling Subaru learned from that because they changed the interval to 6,000 now.
You should be fine with changing your oil between 3K & 5K miles.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
If it's ending up in a landfill then that's an issue but if it's being reclaimed correctly then it's going to good use as recycled oil or fuel or some other use.
Recycling used oil helps but it still takes two barrels of crude to make five quarts of motor oil. If I read that right.

https://www.epa.gov/recycle/managing-reusing-and-recycling-used-oil

edit: If I read that right.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemtn
Recycling used oil helps but it still takes two barrels of crude to make five quarts of motor oil. If I read that right.

https://www.epa.gov/recycle/managing-reusing-and-recycling-used-oil

edit: If I read that right.

Here you are sir, this is more like what I was referring to:

https://mobiloil.com/en/article/car-...-oil-recycling

Used motor oil can be used as a fuel on a gallon for gallon basis whereas used oil can be recycled back into motor oil at about a 60% yield according to the article.

Either way, as long as we're not wasting it, it can still serve us well.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:43 PM
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The only truly high mileage 2.7 EcoBoost I'm aware of (300,000+) has had it's oil changed per the oil life monitor (10k mile intervals) with Motocraft semi-syn. I use the same oil at 7.5K oci.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemtn
Recycling used oil helps but it still takes two barrels of crude to make five quarts of motor oil. If I read that right.

https://www.epa.gov/recycle/managing-reusing-and-recycling-used-oil

edit: If I read that right.
Something else has to be made from that same 2 barrels of oil... At $55/barrel, that would be $110 material cost for 5 quarts, or $22/quart just material. Forget about packaging, processing, and so on.
 
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