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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 04:36 PM
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Quick disaster prevention kit question.

I’ve done a ton of searching across the various forums as to whether or not the disaster prevention kits are still worth the small investment for 2017 and up 6.7’s. I can’t seem to find anyone at all that says they have installed it on anything newer than a 2015 let alone a 2017. If they are still recommended by “most” does anyone have a recommendation for brand?
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 05:49 PM
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OK, I'll bite. What is a "disaster prevention kit?"
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 06:05 PM
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OK, I'll bite. What is a "disaster prevention kit?"
I assume he is referring to a kit you put on if your cp4 blows it doesn't send pieces through the whole system

https://rudysdiesel.com/i-30500514-s...werstroke.html
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 06:38 PM
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There is nothing in a 2015 or newer that would mitigate pump wear and avoid particles being sent to injectors.

the only thing stolipping me from installing is my warranty .
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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I assume he is referring to a kit you put on if your cp4 blows it doesn't send pieces through the whole system
I would tend to think repairs for this type of failure would require a full system replacement regardless of any aftermarket add-on.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
OK, I'll bite. What is a "disaster prevention kit?"
Sorry, yes I meant to say for the cp4 pump to prevent destroying the injectors in the event of a cp4 failure
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I would tend to think repairs for this type of failure would require a full system replacement regardless of any aftermarket add-on.
I kind of had the same thoughts, I can see it preventing some damage to the injectors, by rerouting the metal shavings back to the tank, but I still think I would have a hard time leaving the injectors alone and being confident they were fine if I had a pump failure. I came across a pretty nice diagram of exactly how it works, and the best I could tell, was that while it did reroute the fuel back to the tank after lubricating the pump, it didn’t look “to me” like it all got rerouted back to the tank(some still went straight to the injectors). I’ll try finding the diagram er illustration, that I’m talking about.
Im willing to bet that nobody with the DPK has had a pump failure yet, probably because those that are willing to install such an item, are probably the same people that understand to purchase fuel from high traffic pumps, and do regular maintenance.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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It looks to me like fuel for the injectors comes from two places, one being passed where the big spring looking item is above the eccentric cam lobe, and the one labeled supply to plungers, is this wrong? Or does all fuel for the injector only enter via that one passage way? I may just purchase one of the kits, I bought my truck used with 30k miles, and because I don’t know how it was treated in it’s early days, I feel the need to take extra maybe even drastic measures to prevent further possible damage. I also like working on cars, and I’m getting bored after selling my 97 7.3. I can’t really do anything fun to this truck as I’m in a strictish emissions testing area in Utah.
why in the world didn’t they just use motor oil to lube the pump....
illustrations came from drivingline, but they said they got them from engineered diesel.. just so ya know.

Before DPK

After DPK
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I would tend to think repairs for this type of failure would require a full system replacement regardless of any aftermarket add-on.
If you have the bypass kit the injectors would be protectedfrom metal particles. About 3k worth of injector parts, plus labor, and piping
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 05:11 PM
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If you have the bypass kit the injectors would be protectedfrom metal particles. About 3k worth of injector parts, plus labor, and piping
If a Ford dealer is doing such a repair under warranty, they are going to follow their own specified repair/replace instructions regardless of what an owner has installed, correct? If yes, and my warranty remains current, then what benefit do I gain personally from buying this kit? If I was out of warranty and had to foot the bill for the repair/replace, a Ford dealer would still insist on replacing the injectors. OTOH, my cost could be less if I were to perform the repair/replace myself. But that's something that ain't gonna' happen because I will be trading this 2017 a few years before my 8-year ESP expires.
 
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Originally Posted by cficare
If a Ford dealer is doing such a repair under warranty, they are going to follow their own specified repair/replace instructions regardless of what an owner has installed, correct? If yes, and my warranty remains current, then what benefit do I gain personally from buying this kit? If I was out of warranty and had to foot the bill for the repair/replace, a Ford dealer would still insist on replacing the injectors. OTOH, my cost could be less if I were to perform the repair/replace myself. But that's something that ain't gonna' happen because I will be trading this 2017 a few years before my 8-year ESP expires.
Yes you do not want to install if you are under warranty as odds will be your warranty will be voided for fuel pump related

and yes ford is going to do repairs using their repair logic tree and probably wind up replacing injectors unless you are out of warranty and your footing the bill and you tell them not to.

What you also want to consider is if you are not under warranty and metal fragments from a pump failure causes your injectors to stick open...,you will tourch a hole in your pistons blowing your engine.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 11:53 PM
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Am I correct in assuming the 100k mile engine warranty would cover any of this if the pump were to fail? Or would that part of the warranty end after the 3/36k warranty? Cause I’m close to the 36k, so if my warranty is up then I may as well cover my ****..
 
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Originally Posted by Mwmx54
Am I correct in assuming the 100k mile engine warranty would cover any of this if the pump were to fail? Or would that part of the warranty end after the 3/36k warranty? Cause I’m close to the 36k, so if my warranty is up then I may as well cover my ****..
If under warranty, absolutely.

if the pump fails , metal particles stick open an injector, torches your piston, blows your engine, and you pass “but you have water in your fuel” investigation....,you will get a rebuilt engine that was blown by a preivious customer and rebuilt by ford.
 
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