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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 05:52 PM
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3.5 Ecoboost years to avoid? Common issues?

I'm looking to get rid of my 7.3 F250 PSD and get an ecoboost. Is there any reason to avoid the older ones or any year in particular?
Also is there any easy indicators of 3.5 ecoboost and the "max tow" package? Dealers seem to like to mislabel the diesels and omit tow info.
It seems like a huge upgrade to me, any reasons it's not?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:20 AM
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Here is a recent thread that asked the same basic question a few weeks ago. There is some good info in it, that you should find helpful.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ighlight=power
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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There's no obvious banding of the "max tow" package except on the window sticker. Keep in mind coming from an F250 your ability to tow is controlled by your payload rating, which also isn't obvious unless you can look at the sticker inside the drivers door. There's several threads on payload stickers, they are worth a read.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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To help find trucks with the Max Tow package, check the interior and look for the factory trailer brake controller and backup assist.

 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingofwylietx
To help find trucks with the Max Tow package, check the interior and look for the factory trailer brake controller and backup assist.
Well, it's possible to have those options without max tow package as well. Really you need the window sticker to know.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingofwylietx
To help find trucks with the Max Tow package, check the interior and look for the factory trailer brake controller and backup assist.
To my knowledge, you get backup assist with the base tow package (level above trailer hitch) and TBC can be added as individual item. So you could have both and not max tow.

EDIT: seventyseven250 beat me to it
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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Those options might be available as separate items, but trucks with both of them are more likely to have the max tow package.
It is a very good starting point and something easy for the OP to find...even on the internet (look at the interior pics of the truck).

If OP wants to drive over to look at the trucks in person, he can look at the safety chain attachment points on the hitch.
The standard hitch and max tow hitches have different attachment designs.
That is something you are unlikely to see close enough to distinguish them in pictures...but in person it is easy.

Here is a pic of the Max Tow vs standard tow hitch design. Look at the safety chain attachment points.
The Max Tow is the new/clean hitch....the dirty one is the standard tow hitch. See the design difference?
That is a very conclusive giveaway, but it may be harder to find pics online [when shopping/researching the web] that will show this detail.
In person...it's easy to check and is a definitive detail of whether the truck has the Max Tow package.






 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 10:30 AM
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Those are really great pics, thanks. I hadn't seen them before. Reps sent!
 
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Originally Posted by seventyseven250
Those are really great pics, thanks. I hadn't seen them before. Reps sent!
Thanks! I stole them from another site.
It is something I was trying to figure out when searching for MY truck. The thread was a comparison of the hitches, it took some digging to find that thread again....
However, it seemed like something very useful for the OP, so I tracked it down.
 
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+1 !!! KingofWileyTx. Great tip! Reps sent!
 
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Perfect, Thanks for the information!

I've been paying attention to payload. I bought a travel trailer with 600 lbs tongue weight I also haul my jeep on a car trailer which should be pretty low. The ecoboost should have plenty of room to spare with everything loaded.

My F250's suspension is really hard on my back. I'm looking forward to something smoother with a way better turning radius.
 
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The first few years had a timing drive that was susceptible to issues of failing tensioners and phasers, all of which can cost a pretty penny out of warranty to repair. They corrected the issue for engines manufactured in the middle of the 2015 MY run, so I would look for a truck built after this point. I've attached the relevant TSB, good luck with your search!
 
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Originally Posted by AIbandit
My F250's suspension is really hard on my back. I'm looking forward to something smoother with a way better turning radius.
Yes, the F150 will have a better ride but as far as turning radius, not so much. Mine is only a Supercab but the turning radius is...wide! If you want something that turns on a dime you want the F450 with the optional wide front axle.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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Yes, the F150 will have a better ride but as far as turning radius, not so much. Mine is only a Supercab but the turning radius is...wide! If you want something that turns on a dime you want the F450 with the optional wide front axle.
Have you seen a front leaf f250 turn? I need a full 4 lanes to do a 3 point turn.
 
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In 2011 and maybe 2012 they had the issue with moisture building up in the intercooler at sustained low-RPM highway speeds in humid climates. It was fine until you stepped on it to pass or accelerate hard and it would stumble or stall when it sucked all that moisture in at once. You should make sure they (1) performed that fix or (2) didn't need to perform that fix . . . on whatever you are looking at.
 
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