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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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I saw your other thread with the grill guard and winch. They look fairly heavy. Your truck looks like it has some extra accessories etc.

My truck is a pig heavy platinum diesel that has 5600 springs in it as opposed to 5200 stock. I like the 1/2 lift and its a company vehicle so if I get like a rural job and need to put a winch or replacement bumper on it I can. It rides worse than one with 5200 springs on it. If this wasn't a work truck and didn't tow heavy at times I would have done 5200 stock springs and a 1 inch leveling kit.

The math I figured out was for every 400 lbs of extra spring it lifts it 1/2”; on the diesel but the gas should be similar.

5200 or 5600 will work for you. You should have 4800 springs though correct?

The good thing about the gas and 315s is you can get some lighter D rated tires. It doesn’t look like you will be pulling a heavy gooseneck or 5th wheel with the topper on your truck.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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Have you considered aftermarket springs? user Hackenbush has a fleet of 6.2’s in his landscaping business and swears by the roughcountry 1.5” lift springs:
https://www.roughcountry.com/ford-le...-kit-9285.html

Heres. Thread where I made the same comment and he jumped in with pics and details:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ing-coils.html
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 11:00 AM
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Don’t use plow springs for a level. If you want off-road capability, go with leveling springs.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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Yea my truck is 6.2/4.30 CCSB with plow package. I do have a bit of rake although I never measured it. It is visible. I have 20" stock wheels and no camper package. It rides fine for me. A bit choppier than my GMC 2500 but still feels like luxury to me. I run with 55 lbs all the way around on the stock Michelins.
If your still looking for the part number my stickers are still on there. If as JoeT says above you have a big heavy bumper and winch you might want the 5600 springs plus 1 to 1.5" of level to get where you want to be.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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I also have a 6.2/4.30 CCSB with plow package on 20 wheels. My rake is 2 inches.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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The large letters are 5AD
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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The large letters are 5AD. I dont know if that helps you. These are snow plow prep on a 6.2
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Wow, thank you all so very much! I am very grateful for all the help!

Originally Posted by fordman19762003
The front of my truck sits 41 1/2" high with the 5600 springs and a 120lb ranch hand grill guard on it.

Part number off the tag on the spring is
5C34-5310- ADD

The plow springs will get you a slight lift because they won't compress as much from the weight of the truck (back when the 250s sat pretty much level people would complain that the plow springs would make the truck sit slightly nose high) but the lift will be minimal.

If it was my truck I'd add the heavier springs and see what it looked like (it won't hurt anything and the heavier springs will offset the extra weight on the front) then if it still had too much rake then add the leveling kit.

ETA. i forgot to mention my tires are 275/70/18 which are roughly 33" tall. I see you have the stock 17" tires which will be a little shorter making your truck lower to the ground but the difference in rake is the number that matters. My rear is 43 1/2" so I have exactly 2" of rake. Compare that to what your truck with the stock front springs and see what the difference in rake is.
Thank you! Yeah I'm planning on going up to 315's on a 17x8 wheel with +0mm offset. I think once I do that, and add the springs, it should suffice for what I'm hoping to accomplish with the truck.

Originally Posted by mond
Here are the part numbers and spring codes from an older post:

#5C3Z-5310-CA - spring code C, fit note F81A-5310-AHD (6000 LB.)
#5C3Z-5310-DA - spring code D, fit note F81A-5310-AGD (5600 LB.)
#5C3Z-5310-EA - spring code T, fit note F81A-5310-AFD (5200 LB.)
#5C3Z-5310-FA - spring code V, fit note F81A-5310-AED (4800 LB.)
Awesome, thank you! I wonder why the 5600lb spring listed there is different from @fordman19762003's post above?

Originally Posted by Joe T
I saw your other thread with the grill guard and winch. They look fairly heavy. Your truck looks like it has some extra accessories etc.

My truck is a pig heavy platinum diesel that has 5600 springs in it as opposed to 5200 stock. I like the 1/2 lift and its a company vehicle so if I get like a rural job and need to put a winch or replacement bumper on it I can. It rides worse than one with 5200 springs on it. If this wasn't a work truck and didn't tow heavy at times I would have done 5200 stock springs and a 1 inch leveling kit.

The math I figured out was for every 400 lbs of extra spring it lifts it 1/2”; on the diesel but the gas should be similar.

5200 or 5600 will work for you. You should have 4800 springs though correct?

The good thing about the gas and 315s is you can get some lighter D rated tires. It doesn’t look like you will be pulling a heavy gooseneck or 5th wheel with the topper on your truck.
Thanks Joe! I will eventually have a travel trailer but it won't be a gooseneck. I don't plan on towing anything like that ever, so hence the shell and gas instead of diesel. I definitely have 4400lb springs in my truck, for whatever reason. Even without the winch, guard, etc. the truck felt like it needed a suspension upgrade. Every time I go over a bump it feels like other trucks I've owned where the suspension is old and tired. The rebound rate is incredibly low, so it feels like I'm driving a boat. I'm hoping that by adding the 5600lb springs (decided on those versus the 6000 because I figure the 6000's are for a diesel), the truck will feel a bit more stable in the front. I don't mind the stiffer ride at all, and that's what I'm wanting anyway. Plus, with the 315's and the weight of the stuff up front, that will offset the rigidness some.

Originally Posted by Section179
Have you considered aftermarket springs? user Hackenbush has a fleet of 6.2’s in his landscaping business and swears by the roughcountry 1.5” lift springs:
https://www.roughcountry.com/ford-le...-kit-9285.html

Heres. Thread where I made the same comment and he jumped in with pics and details:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ing-coils.html
Thanks! I actually did see that thread, and I did consider aftermarket components briefly. However, I'm the kind of guy that likes to keep OEM parts on vehicles as much as possible. It was VERY difficult for me to order different wheels, as an example. I know that aftermarket stuff can be comparable or even better in some cases; it's just something about it that bothers me.

@Mikelikesit Thank you for the pics! That matches up with Fordman's part number too. Looks like we're on to something here!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Just put in an order for the 5600lb springs. Will be here by the end of the week (hopefully)!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:25 AM
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Make sure to measure before and after; then post your results.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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I just pulled the measurements.

Rear: From the ground to the bottom lip of the receiver is 18 3/4".

Front: From the ground to the bottom edge of the fairlead for my winch is 22 3/8".

This is with 285/70-17s. I will have the 315/70-17s on the truck before I change the springs and shocks (Bilstein 4600s). I'll measure from the same spots on the truck once the 315s are on, then once again after the springs and shocks are in. Then we can see how much of a difference it makes.

Here's a pic for reference as well:

 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman19762003
My CCSB has the 5600lb springs which are the plow springs the gas trucks come with, the diesel trucks with the plow package come with heavier springs.
I realize the OP has already ordered new springs, but just in case someone else comes upon this thread, my 350 gas with plow/camper package does have the 6000# springs. So it's not as simple as gas = 5600, diesel = 6000.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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I am looking for lighter springs. My F350 6.7 has the camper package and the snow prep. I assume mine are 6000#. Anyone with 5200 or 5600 take offs please let me know.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 05:40 AM
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I've never heard of using stiffer springs for better off-road performance. . I guess I'm no pro, but when I was into the rock crawling scene, we always found the lightest spring that would support the weight of the vehicle. The softer the spring, the easier the suspension worked.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack4x
I realize the OP has already ordered new springs, but just in case someone else comes upon this thread, my 350 gas with plow/camper package does have the 6000# springs. So it's not as simple as gas = 5600, diesel = 6000.
That's most likely because you have the 350 and not the 250. Also, it sounds like you have two options, so that could be it as well. Snow Plow Package only = 5600lb springs; Snow Plow Package + Camper Package = 6000lb springs.

Originally Posted by Jefff H
I am looking for lighter springs. My F350 6.7 has the camper package and the snow prep. I assume mine are 6000#. Anyone with 5200 or 5600 take offs please let me know.
Just open your driver's door and look in the door jamb. The weight rating for the front will tell you which springs you have.

Originally Posted by seemoremud
I've never heard of using stiffer springs for better off-road performance. . I guess I'm no pro, but when I was into the rock crawling scene, we always found the lightest spring that would support the weight of the vehicle. The softer the spring, the easier the suspension worked.
Was there a purpose or a point to this post? While your feedback is still welcomed and appreciated, I'm failing to see how this was constructive. As you'll note from my posts here, and in other threads, I have extra weight on the front of my truck. I have the lightest possible springs, and I am not lifting the truck. If you don't want to bottom out all the time, and don't want to increase the ride height (i.e., lift the truck), suspension travel, etc., the only option is stiffer springs and/or stiffer shocks. Softer suspension is better for low-speed off-roading like rock crawling, but that's not what I'm doing.
 
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