64 Resto Question
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Mearntain: don't know how original resto you are going but when i was looking into headliners I really liked the roddoors option for both fit and look. You'll have to apply some vinyl covering if you dont want the ABS plastic, though. You should be able to search for roddoors on the site as well for more info/pics.
When i do buy a headliner i'll go this route.
https://roddoors.com/shop?olsPage=pr...ndow-universal
When i do buy a headliner i'll go this route.
https://roddoors.com/shop?olsPage=pr...ndow-universal
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Mearntain: don't know how original resto you are going but when i was looking into headliners I really liked the roddoors option for both fit and look. You'll have to apply some vinyl covering if you dont want the ABS plastic, though. You should be able to search for roddoors on the site as well for more info/pics.
When i do buy a headliner i'll go this route.
https://roddoors.com/shop?olsPage=pr...ndow-universal
When i do buy a headliner i'll go this route.
https://roddoors.com/shop?olsPage=pr...ndow-universal
Topic has come up on number of occasions suggest run an advance search and narrow the field to the 61-66 Forum. If considering an alternative to the 'cardboard' type of material an FTE member posted pic's and comments on an alternative. There is also a well done 'how to' install the cardboard type material an FTE member posted in this forum.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-bad-pics.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-bad-pics.html
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This has nothing to do what I posted, but I'll take the time to respond.
I've used the search functions many times in the past, and the times that I've gone off what another thread has said has screwed me over numerous times, whether leading me to buying an incompatible part or throwing a part at the truck that was completely unnecessary. If it's something as simple as to what the proper firing order is, that is a different thing. This post was more of a, "Please confirm the info that I am stating before I spend thousands of dollars on prep and paint just to find out what I did was wrong by trusting what Joe said back in '06". This has happened too many times in the past to me on this site (and others) and am trying to avoid that.
I've got catalogs and do have access to those places, but once again, on multiple occasions I've purchased parts that were "supposed" to fit my truck and were completely wrong from those places. Half the bottom shelf of my work bench is full of parts that go to some sort of F100 (I suppose), but definitely not for my 64. Once again, just wanted to ask if they were available so hopefully someone would say, "Yes, they are available and I got them from _____, they looked great and fit perfect, but stay away from ______ because those are notorious for needing modification to fit properly".
And I do have a shop manual, but 100% there is no reference to the color red that was used on the hub caps for lettering in there. If the other paint/trim info is in there, I was unaware of that.
I've used the search functions many times in the past, and the times that I've gone off what another thread has said has screwed me over numerous times, whether leading me to buying an incompatible part or throwing a part at the truck that was completely unnecessary. If it's something as simple as to what the proper firing order is, that is a different thing. This post was more of a, "Please confirm the info that I am stating before I spend thousands of dollars on prep and paint just to find out what I did was wrong by trusting what Joe said back in '06". This has happened too many times in the past to me on this site (and others) and am trying to avoid that.
I've got catalogs and do have access to those places, but once again, on multiple occasions I've purchased parts that were "supposed" to fit my truck and were completely wrong from those places. Half the bottom shelf of my work bench is full of parts that go to some sort of F100 (I suppose), but definitely not for my 64. Once again, just wanted to ask if they were available so hopefully someone would say, "Yes, they are available and I got them from _____, they looked great and fit perfect, but stay away from ______ because those are notorious for needing modification to fit properly".
And I do have a shop manual, but 100% there is no reference to the color red that was used on the hub caps for lettering in there. If the other paint/trim info is in there, I was unaware of that.
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The correct answer will be there somewhere, but its mixed throughout all the other wrong answers - I'll take a pick on one, and my luck, chances are its wrong and I've wasted tons on sandblasting my rims and repainting them Wimbledon White, when in all reality it was supposed to be black... 
When I bought my new Wimbledon White '65 F100, it came with Wimbledon White wheels, white bottlecap hub caps with red FORD letters.
Too damn much white, looked like a refrigerator on wheels.
I took the hub caps off, tossed them in the trash, painted the wheels black and installed wheel covers, 1952 Packard wheel covers that is.
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I dont recall where I saw the black reference at. It was either in a thread I read or one that I commented on, where someone was told that their wheels were supposed to be Wimbledon white but someone else corrected them saying they were either supposed to be Pure white or black, but not Wimbledon.
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Doing a 100% restoration but not using an original style cardboard headliner is going to pull you away from 100%.
Here's some information about 1964 hub caps, wheel colors, etc. When they say White it is either Pure White or Wimbledon White depending on other factors.
Here's some information about 1964 hub caps, wheel colors, etc. When they say White it is either Pure White or Wimbledon White depending on other factors.
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Agreed - the Roddoors headliner is not an OE style liner (but i like it better). So if you want "factory" dont buy it.
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And by the way ND, I found the post where it was actually you that mentioned something about black wheels. I think it was in regards to 61/63 though. I'm struggling finding the 64 Info.
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There is a pair of NOS covers on the bay now, I believe they are argent with the red lettering. Think he wants 300.00 the pair. It is obvious from their boxes, that they are from different years. I often see individual covers without the red lettering. Perhaps years later Ford decided to save a few pennies by eliminating that expensive red paint
Not sure if it is still up, but a guy had a set of four, some had painted letters, some not, if I recall correctly. That guy is asking 600.00,for all four, they may be the larger 3/4 ton covers. He’s been trying to sell them at that price for a long time, maybe over a year. His ad appears, then disappears, the caps unsold. After awhile, the ad will return. He does not want to negotiate at all on price, therefore he’ll retain ownership a good long while.
Not sure if it is still up, but a guy had a set of four, some had painted letters, some not, if I recall correctly. That guy is asking 600.00,for all four, they may be the larger 3/4 ton covers. He’s been trying to sell them at that price for a long time, maybe over a year. His ad appears, then disappears, the caps unsold. After awhile, the ad will return. He does not want to negotiate at all on price, therefore he’ll retain ownership a good long while.
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There is a pair of NOS covers on the bay now, I believe one is all argent, the other has the red lettering. Think he wants 300.00 the pair. It is obvious from their boxes, that they are from different years.
Not sure if it is still up, but a guy had a set of four, same scenario, some painted letters, some not, if I recall correctly. That guy is asking 600.00,for all four, they may be the larger 3/4 ton covers.
Not sure if it is still up, but a guy had a set of four, same scenario, some painted letters, some not, if I recall correctly. That guy is asking 600.00,for all four, they may be the larger 3/4 ton covers.
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Thanks for the link, that's definitely one I'll consider even if I need to find the correct pattern vinyl to cover it. I'd rather have abs up there than cardboard, once its covered no one would know. My end goal is to have the truck 100% restored to how it left the dealers lot. I started with the truck in fantastic shape from the original owner and most of all the original paperwork was there, so no need to mod this one. Just want this back to mint condition and it's a truck I plan to keep forever.
I coated the back with a mixture of carpenters wood glue and rubbing alcohol. I painted it on the back side immediately before installing it. Once dry, it seals the pores so it doesn't absorb moisture as fast and also helps hold its shape. My headliner has the holes, so I had to wipe off the excess that dripped through quickly, but it didn't affect the appearance once dry. I do keep my truck in the garage, so it's not in direct sunlight all day. If I had the ability to install the headliner with the cab upside down, it would have been so much easier.
Just something to consider.
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The headliner is a major part of the original look. There is a way to make it last longer. Where I live it's very humid in the summer, and this year we've been above 90 degrees for more than 2 weeks total, so it takes a toll on cardboard. My headliner has been up now for just over a year, and through the better part of 2 summers. So far it has held up without sagging.
I coated the back with a mixture of carpenters wood glue and rubbing alcohol. I painted it on the back side immediately before installing it. Once dry, it seals the pores so it doesn't absorb moisture as fast and also helps hold its shape. My headliner has the holes, so I had to wipe off the excess that dripped through quickly, but it didn't affect the appearance once dry. I do keep my truck in the garage, so it's not in direct sunlight all day. If I had the ability to install the headliner with the cab upside down, it would have been so much easier.
Just something to consider.
I coated the back with a mixture of carpenters wood glue and rubbing alcohol. I painted it on the back side immediately before installing it. Once dry, it seals the pores so it doesn't absorb moisture as fast and also helps hold its shape. My headliner has the holes, so I had to wipe off the excess that dripped through quickly, but it didn't affect the appearance once dry. I do keep my truck in the garage, so it's not in direct sunlight all day. If I had the ability to install the headliner with the cab upside down, it would have been so much easier.
Just something to consider.
I notice that they have perforated and non perforated headliners. Do you by chance know what the correct application would be for my 64? I know the small original pieces that are in the corners still, seem to not be perforated and just have a cross hatch pattern on it (but this is also me assuming that what I see is original and was not replaced by the prior owner)
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Cannot say it’s the same for your 64 - but for 66, the perforated liner is for Custom Cab models, the non-perforated is for a standard cab. Number Dummy can verify if this is also the case for other years.
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What book is this? This could be handy to have the 64 that I'm working on.