11eb 6sp vs 19eb 10sp
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11eb 6sp vs 19eb 10sp
Hello all, new to the site...]
hoping for some feedback...I have a 2011 eco boost with 120k miles on it and until recently it was solid fast truck. Time chain, cam phaser were done under warranty 2 yrs ago and now its making the morning cold start grinding noise again...
ford wont repair it again as they said there is no warranty on warranty work ,wtf :/ on top of that after the transmission recall recently, a short time later , my tranny started making noise, turns out my fifth gear is toast...so im looking to trade for new truck...im kinda pissed at ford, but with my high miles im sure im s.o.l. argueing with them... anyways....I took a new 19 eb for test drive and it seemed slow AF compared to my truck....could it be the new 10speed transmission>? also I have the max tow 3.73 gear ratio...and the one I drove was 3.55. Undecided now …. but..... Id appreciate any insightful feedback. Cheers.
hoping for some feedback...I have a 2011 eco boost with 120k miles on it and until recently it was solid fast truck. Time chain, cam phaser were done under warranty 2 yrs ago and now its making the morning cold start grinding noise again...
ford wont repair it again as they said there is no warranty on warranty work ,wtf :/ on top of that after the transmission recall recently, a short time later , my tranny started making noise, turns out my fifth gear is toast...so im looking to trade for new truck...im kinda pissed at ford, but with my high miles im sure im s.o.l. argueing with them... anyways....I took a new 19 eb for test drive and it seemed slow AF compared to my truck....could it be the new 10speed transmission>? also I have the max tow 3.73 gear ratio...and the one I drove was 3.55. Undecided now …. but..... Id appreciate any insightful feedback. Cheers.
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The 2019 EB will most certainly have more HP and torque than the 2011. No doubt about that. The rear end ratio would make "some" difference, but the 10-speed should make up for most of it. Perhaps the difference is the body/trim of the new truck versus the old truck? If it's a similar body style, the 2019 should also be lighter. Don't understand why it would be perceived as slower unless it's just more quiet, so the subjective difference is hard to perceive.
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Motortend says the 2017 (same drivetrain as the 2019) Platinum is quicker than the 2011 Lariat they tested.
They are two separate reviews...but that is the result.
Subjectively, it may not feel as quick because it maintains a certain level of smoother acceleration spread across more gear ratios.
They are two separate reviews...but that is the result.
Subjectively, it may not feel as quick because it maintains a certain level of smoother acceleration spread across more gear ratios.
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Thx for your input....
fyi , I do have mods on my truck ...however, I still recall b4 the mods that my truck power was non stop … the new one did not have the same linear torque kick through the rev range … but you maybe right … with the exhaust , cai ,throttle booster, maybe my butt dyno is off lol.
Tbh with a new lighter updated truck , I was expecting a distinct performance feel, but instead I was disappointed it didn't have the punch of my 2011eb ...idk
fyi , I do have mods on my truck ...however, I still recall b4 the mods that my truck power was non stop … the new one did not have the same linear torque kick through the rev range … but you maybe right … with the exhaust , cai ,throttle booster, maybe my butt dyno is off lol.
Tbh with a new lighter updated truck , I was expecting a distinct performance feel, but instead I was disappointed it didn't have the punch of my 2011eb ...idk
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I went from an ‘11 FX4 Ecoboost screw with 3:73s to a ‘18 XLT scab with 3:55s. Going from four wheel drive to 2wd, 4 door to ext cab, steel body to aluminum and gen 1 to gen 2 engine, the performance difference is very noticeable. I could leave my XLT in normal trans setting and cremate my old FX4 in a drag race easily.
The one you were driving might have been a 2.7 as KJSmith noted.
The one you were driving might have been a 2.7 as KJSmith noted.
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My daughter has a 2018 XLT Screw 4x4 with the 3.5L and 3.55 axles. As compared to my 2011 3.5L 4x4 with 3.31 axles, I'm not seeing / feeling a massive difference but her MPG's are better by about 10%.
So, in this case, same or slightly better performance and 10% better MPG's is a win in my book. Both trucks are factory stock.
So, in this case, same or slightly better performance and 10% better MPG's is a win in my book. Both trucks are factory stock.
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I've noticed when test driving new trucks they seem a little doggie. I've also noticed it when taking delivery of trucks that I ordered but after a day or 2 it starts going away and the truck gets more peppy and responsive. My theory is that the new trucks on the lot haven't adapted to (your) or a particular driving style yet. I drive pretty aggressively and once the transmission starts adapting to that driving style it feels like a different truck.
I owned a 2011 and a 2014 3.5 Ecoboost. The 2019 should feel faster with the gen2 Ecoboost w/10 speed.
I owned a 2011 and a 2014 3.5 Ecoboost. The 2019 should feel faster with the gen2 Ecoboost w/10 speed.
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My daughter has a 2018 XLT Screw 4x4 with the 3.5L and 3.55 axles. As compared to my 2011 3.5L 4x4 with 3.31 axles, I'm not seeing / feeling a massive difference but her MPG's are better by about 10%.
So, in this case, same or slightly better performance and 10% better MPG's is a win in my book. Both trucks are factory stock.
So, in this case, same or slightly better performance and 10% better MPG's is a win in my book. Both trucks are factory stock.
’11 : screw, 4WD, 20” wheels, steel construction
‘18 : scab, 2wd 18” wheels, aluminum construction
The ‘18 is much stronger running. But you are right about the mpg: 17mpg was pretty much the norm in the ‘11; the ‘18 gets 5 mpg better as it routinely clocks in at 22.