Notices
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Bumpsides Ford Truck

Steering column snafu

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 03:30 PM
  #1  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Steering column snafu

Hello,

First post here, and unfortunately it's because I need some help. Let me start off by saying I am fairly new to automotive repair, and recently purchased a 1967 F100 in order to learn. I have wanted to dabble in it for a while, and I figured if I didn't do it now, I never would (i'm 33). One of the things that needed repairing was the turn signals. They worked, but would not shut off automatically after a turn, so I pulled the steering wheel off and went to inspect the turn signal switch. As expected, it was broken, so I wanted to order a replacement. I wanted to see if the part had a number on it, so I started disassembling the whole assembly that has the turn signal lever on it a bit more than I probably should have. Next thing I knew, the shift lever assembly (it's an automatic transmission) behind the signal assembly popped forward, and I heard a metal clank. I look at the back of the signal assembly, and the column lockout plate is missing a section (I am guessing that is the clank I heard). So I have ordered a new one, and a new signal switch. Here's my question. I can't figure out how to get the column back together. I tried pushing the shifter assembly down and tried to get the signal assembly to lock things back in place, but I can't seem to figure out just how to do it. It's hard to keep the shifter assembly pushed down and work without it pooping forward, and I cant figure out how the shifter assembly attaches to hold things in place. I know that the two bolts (with square heads on the back side of the signal assembly) I undid that caused things to pop forward must factor in, but I can't get things back in place. Do those square heads slip into the metal collar that has the square holes in the top and bottom (I assume they do somehow, as they are right behind where each bolt is? If so, how do I best get them in?

Here's the signal assembly hanging down, and the shifter assembly that popped forward

Another view

You can see the broken lockout plate here

The broken signal switch, and the two bolts with the square heads on the back side of the assembly

Thanks for any help that can be given. I would like to at least be able to get some solid attempts at getting things back together myself before I have to have it towed to my mechanic!
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2019 | 10:41 PM
  #2  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Carpediem930
Hello,

First post here, and unfortunately it's because I need some help. Let me start off by saying I am fairly new to automotive repair, and recently purchased a 1967 F100 in order to learn. I have wanted to dabble in it for a while, and I figured if I didn't do it now, I never would (i'm 33). One of the things that needed repairing was the turn signals. They worked, but would not shut off automatically after a turn, so I pulled the steering wheel off and went to inspect the turn signal switch. As expected, it was broken, so I wanted to order a replacement. I wanted to see if the part had a number on it, so I started disassembling the whole assembly that has the turn signal lever on it a bit more than I probably should have. Next thing I knew, the shift lever assembly (it's an automatic transmission) behind the signal assembly popped forward, and I heard a metal clank. I look at the back of the signal assembly, and the column lockout plate is missing a section (I am guessing that is the clank I heard). So I have ordered a new one, and a new signal switch. Here's my question. I can't figure out how to get the column back together. I tried pushing the shifter assembly down and tried to get the signal assembly to lock things back in place, but I can't seem to figure out just how to do it. It's hard to keep the shifter assembly pushed down and work without it pooping forward, and I cant figure out how the shifter assembly attaches to hold things in place. I know that the two bolts (with square heads on the back side of the signal assembly) I undid that caused things to pop forward must factor in, but I can't get things back in place. Do those square heads slip into the metal collar that has the square holes in the top and bottom (I assume they do somehow, as they are right behind where each bolt is? If so, how do I best get them in?

Here's the signal assembly hanging down, and the shifter assembly that popped forward

Another view

You can see the broken lockout plate (7A216 Detent - see below) here ^


The broken signal switch (13341 in pic below), and the two bolts (3641) with the square heads on the back side of the assembly.

Thanks for any help that can be given. I would like to at least be able to get some solid attempts at getting things back together myself before I have to have it towed to my mechanic!
Originally, there was a paper tag looped over the T/S wires that had the part number printed on it, but if the tag is missing, that was the only number.

C7TZ-7A216-A .. Transmission Control Selector Position Insert aka Detent / Obsolete/Reproduced?

C9TZ-13341-C (replaced C5TZ-13341-A) .. T/S Switch / Reproduced

 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 01:44 AM
  #3  
GaryKip's Avatar
GaryKip
Logistics Pro
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,093
Likes: 14
From: Lind, WA- Eastern WA
Welcome to the Forum! You can use the parts numbers that "NumberDummy" posted and search some of the on-line NOS (New Old Stock) parts places to see if they have the parts. Most of the time, you have to omit the dashes from the parts numbers on those sites. Sorry I can't help with the column internal workings. Some of the other guys will chime in soon, just hang in there. I sent you an email. If you didn't get it , contact me at: garykipfer@aol.com.
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 01:49 AM
  #4  
GaryKip's Avatar
GaryKip
Logistics Pro
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,093
Likes: 14
From: Lind, WA- Eastern WA
NOS part suppliers: /www.partsvoice.com and:


Miller Obsolete Parts

117 Rano Blvd #690
Vestal, NY 13851

Phone: (607) 722-5371
Email: nos_fordparts@yahoo.com
Open: Monday–Friday
http://www.rearcounter.com/
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 09:14 AM
  #5  
Old Coyote's Avatar
Old Coyote
Senior User
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
"know that the two bolts (with square heads on the back side of the signal assembly) I undid that caused things to pop forward must factor in, but I can't get things back in place. Do those square heads slip into the metal collar that has the square holes in the top and bottom (I assume they do somehow, as they are right behind where each bolt is? If so, how do I best get them in?"

You're not the first guy to be frustrated by those two square bolts. I've found the easiest way to install them is put them through the collar first and thread the nuts on a few threads. Line the bolt heads up with the square holes in the shift tube. You want the bolt heads to be in contact with the shift tube as you slide the collar and bolts towards the holes. You can spread the ends on the upper side of the collar apart a bit to get the square heads to tighten up on the shaft as you slide them in. IF all goes well, when the square heads get to the holes they drop in there. tighten the nuts and that's it
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 09:54 AM
  #6  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
NumberDummy, the only detente plate that I can find (it visually looks to be the same, but is a slightly different number), is a D2TZ-7A216-A from a 1972 A.T. column. Will this one work? If not, I may be screwed, as I cannot find the same number as you posted

Thanks everyone for the kind words and suggestions. Hopefully I can get this resolved soon!
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 10:23 AM
  #7  
mcline's Avatar
mcline
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Carpediem930
NumberDummy, the only detente plate that I can find (it visually looks to be the same, but is a slightly different number), is a D2TZ-7A216-A from a 1972 A.T. column. Will this one work? If not, I may be screwed, as I cannot find the same number as you posted

Thanks everyone for the kind words and suggestions. Hopefully I can get this resolved soon!
Not sure where you are located, but here in NC there is a guy who runs a Ford salvage yard "Flashback F100's" (Flashback F100's - Home) who likely has the parts you need. He was super helpful when I replaced the steering column and wheel in my 72 F100. The previous owner had replaced the original steering column with a a 76 automatic (truck is a manual) column so he could get his hot rod wheel on there (it was stupid set up and caused all sorts of issues, EG:tailights didnt work, turn signals were spotting, brake lights were spotty, etc). Tom at Flashback F100 set me up with a rebuilt year correct column for $500.

Good luck!
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 01:28 PM
  #8  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
That's a great bit of information, thanks! I'll definitely file that away for future reference! I think I found the part I need, but this sounds like a handy resource for what I am looking for now, and possibly in the future
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 02:25 PM
  #9  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Carpediem930
NumberDummy, the only detente plate that I can find (it visually looks to be the same, but is a slightly different number), is D2TZ-7A216-A from a 1972 A.T. column. Will this one work? If not, I may be screwed, as I cannot find the same number as you posted
MUSTANG SERVICE CENTER in North Hollywood CA shows (1) C7TZ-7A216 (no suffix) on rearcounter.com = 818-765-9266.

The owner is a former Ford parts guy and a long time friend, told me that rearcounter dropped the suffixes of 100's of parts he downloaded on their site.

D2TZ-7A216-A is 1972 F100/350. There was another: C9TZ-7A216-A that fit 1969/71's. Neither replaced C7TZ-7A216-A
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 02:39 PM
  #10  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
MUSTANG SERVICE CENTER in North Hollywood CA shows (1) C7TZ-7A216 (no suffix) on rearcounter.com = 818-765-9266.

The owner is a former Ford parts guy and a long time friend, told me that rearcounter dropped the suffixes of 100's of parts he downloaded on their site.

D2TZ-7A216-A is 1972 F100/350. There was another: C9TZ-7A216-A that fit 1969/71's. Neither replaced C7TZ-7A216-A
Thank you so much! I am getting in contact with them
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 02:45 PM
  #11  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Carpediem930
Thank you so much! I am getting in contact with them
Be aware that the owner (Bo) does not update his inventory on rearcounter, so while the part is listed, it may have been sold.

Bo is from Thailand, has mangled the English language ever since he "got off the boat" in the early 1970's.
 
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2019 | 07:58 PM
  #12  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Be aware that the owner (Bo) does not update his inventory on rearcounter, so while the part is listed, it may have been sold.

Bo is from Thailand, has mangled the English language ever since he "got off the boat" in the early 1970's.
Yea, sadly that was the case. Part was sold out. I did find a steering column from another 67, so that’s my fallback plan for the moment. Will have to see how everything goes
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2019 | 12:04 PM
  #13  
Carpediem930's Avatar
Carpediem930
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
MUSTANG SERVICE CENTER in North Hollywood CA shows (1) C7TZ-7A216 (no suffix) on rearcounter.com = 818-765-9266.

The owner is a former Ford parts guy and a long time friend, told me that rearcounter dropped the suffixes of 100's of parts he downloaded on their site.

D2TZ-7A216-A is 1972 F100/350. There was another: C9TZ-7A216-A that fit 1969/71's. Neither replaced C7TZ-7A216-A
So a question, would the detention plate from a 68 power steering column fit in my 67 manual steering column? It’s the same setup aside from it being a power steering column, having column shift and manual steering, etc. I believe they have the same detention plate model but I figured I would check
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2019 | 02:06 PM
  #14  
mcline's Avatar
mcline
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Carpediem930
So a question, would the detention plate from a 68 power steering column fit in my 67 manual steering column? It’s the same setup aside from it being a power steering column, having column shift and manual steering, etc. I believe they have the same detention plate model but I figured I would check
I'd call Tom over at Flashback F100 - he has a yard full of 60's & 70's F100's and likely has the part you need. He has been rebuilding a lot of steering columns lately and is super knowledgeable....
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2019 | 02:19 PM
  #15  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 784
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
See next post...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE