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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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Rear Axle Swap

Here are a few pictures I swapped out the 65' 4.10 for a 79' 3.54. Overall the engine sounds better going 55-60 and maybe dropped the rpm's by 200 or so at speed. Time will tell if it makes a bigger difference or not.

I know that this pops up occasionally but I need help determining what speedo gear to go with. Speedometer about 5 mph off at 60 ( shows 55 at 60). Truck has a NP435 and 245 70 16 tires.

Any help would be appreciated. There were no problems with the 4.10 in case anyone is in need of one for a good price.

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Originally Posted by Sortofa65
Here are a few pictures I swapped out the '65 4.10 for a '79 3.54.

I know that this pops up occasionally but I need help determining what speedo gear to go with. Speedometer about 5 mph off at 60 ( shows 55 at 60). Truck has a NP435 and 245 70 16 tires.
Your truck is a 1965 F250 w/a swapped Dana 60 3.54-1. What trans does it have?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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It's the New Process 435 I believe to be original although the motor is a 68' Mercury 390 (confirmed by you from the tag) I doubt anything else was swapped in.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sortofa65
It's the New Process 435 I believe to be original although the motor is a 68' Mercury 390 (confirmed by you from the tag) I doubt anything else was swapped in.
The only issue with the speedometer is the P-metric radials which were not available back then. Parts catalog only lists the bias ply tire sizes. So you'll have to convert the P-metrics to the bias size.

NP435: Reverse is down...towards the seat // Warner T-18: Reverse is up...towards the dash.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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The trans is definitely the NP435

The tires on it P245 70R/16 measure at 29.5 inches with weight on them.

The previous tires were Dunlop 6.50-16 they are still in my neighbors barn and measure approximately 29.75 without any weight on them.

I would say with weight they would be very close in size to the current tires.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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Bill

The trans is definitely the NP435

The tires on it P245 70R/16 measure at 29.5 inches with weight on them.

The previous tires were Dunlop 6.50-16 they are still in my neighbors barn and measure approximately 29.75 without any weight on them.

I would say with weight they would be very close in size to the current tires.
NP435 & 3.54-1

6.50-16 tires only listed for F100.

2WD: C3DZ-17271-B .. 17T Nylon DRIVEN Gear & C3OZ-17285-C .. 7T Steel DRIVE Gear
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F250 2WD with 7.50-16 tires: C0DZ-17271-A .. 16T Nylon DRIVEN Gear & C3OZ-17285-C .. 7T Steel DRIVE Gear

The DRIVEN gears are available, but the DRIVE gear is obsolete.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the info Bill.

I pulled the driven gear and it's a 16 tooth. I take it I'll just have to replace the other if I can locate it.

Any idea the skill level involved with that.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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A 265 70R/16 should solve the problem.
 
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Would anybody have the exploded view of the NP435 that may show the drive gear
 
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17285 near rear of case.

 
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Thanks, I think I'll be talking to a transmission shop.
 
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