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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Going to the dark side ????

Hello All,
I may have lost my mind, but I am thinking of trading in the 2017 CCLB 6.2L for a diesel. !!
Lately the lure of the dark side is strong ... I find myself wearing a lot of black..... I digress

Big question for me is :

Should I stick with a CCLB, or should I go with a CCSB this time ?
I will be towing my 11,400 lb 5er. 5-6 times a year totaling about 2000 towing miles.
The truck is also my daily driver, about 15000 miles per year.
Towing range with a CCSB diesel with the 34 gal tank would be about the same as the CCLB 6.2l with the 48 gal tank.
Greater stability with the CCLb.
Greater maneuverability with the CCSB.
Much greater range with the CCLB diesel.
The extra length of the CCLB dos not bother me except when backing the 5er into a tight spot.

What do Ya-All think ??
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:36 PM
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Only you can determine whats right for you - but for many 5er users it's the CCLB, 4x4, diesel.
Dually if you go much heavier (future proofing) or want the stability.

Very few complain about too much truck.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:59 PM
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The only "dark" part of going diesel is the color of the oil in the engine.

I really like the range that the 48 gallon tank gives me. I have no desire to add an aftermarket fuel tank, so the OEM 48 gallon tank is ideal for me.

My trailer has a GVWR of 11K. I'm towing in the mountains with almost every trip. The 6.7L engine is soooo awesome. Point it uphill and it just goes.

My prior truck had a short bed. Never again!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 05:27 AM
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Always long bed. Just back into your parking spots. You will find that the extra space is handy.

Those 2,000 miles during the year will increase, you'll see. We run around 10K a year with cross country trips.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 05:51 PM
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Is this a want or need thing?

For only 2K miles it is not a financial smart decision to move to the diesel from your current truck. The diesel in same exact conditions will not get 30% better fuel mileage, maybe 20% at the absolute most but more than likely around 12-15% better. Yes power and engine braking is amazing, towing is more relaxed and confident but not enough to justify the cost for that little usage.

If it’s just a want to get one and don’t care the cost, then get the 6.7 you won’t be disappointed. But to do it and try to justify the cost... you never will. I have one of each, 6.2 and 6.7 and the only reason I have the 6.7 is because I want one and am willing to pay the premium for it.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Macdsl
Is this a want or need thing?

For only 2K miles it is not a financial smart decision to move to the diesel from your current truck. The diesel in same exact conditions will not get 30% better fuel mileage, maybe 20% at the absolute most but more than likely around 12-15% better. Yes power and engine braking is amazing, towing is more relaxed and confident but not enough to justify the cost for that little usage.

If it’s just a want to get one and don’t care the cost, then get the 6.7 you won’t be disappointed. But to do it and try to justify the cost... you never will. I have one of each, 6.2 and 6.7 and the only reason I have the 6.7 is because I want one and am willing to pay the premium for it.
Ummmmmmm, financially smart = selling the toys and the truck. Period. Unless they are actually making one a profit.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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No need

Originally Posted by Macdsl
Is this a want or need thing?

For only 2K miles it is not a financial smart decision to move to the diesel from your current truck. The diesel in same exact conditions will not get 30% better fuel mileage, maybe 20% at the absolute most but more than likely around 12-15% better. Yes power and engine braking is amazing, towing is more relaxed and confident but not enough to justify the cost for that little usage.

If it’s just a want to get one and don’t care the cost, then get the 6.7 you won’t be disappointed. But to do it and try to justify the cost... you never will. I have one of each, 6.2 and 6.7 and the only reason I have the 6.7 is because I want one and am willing to pay the premium for it.
It is not a need thing.
My current setup weighs in at 11400 lbs per a CAT scale. GCWR for my truck is 11500 LBS.
There are certainly times I would be a few hundred lbs over that, but nothing seriously over spec.
My current truck lacks a few options I would like such as the Ultimate trailer tow camera system, and the Extended running boards, and a few other minor things.
My wife and I have also discussed the possibility of a bigger 5vs in a few years.

I sometimes want some reserve acceleration capability when fully loaded, but the current truck does quite well with the current camper.
I am just working on the decision of do I really want it bad enough to pull the trigger.

Thanks for your comments, it helps me.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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Correction

My earlier post listed the GCWR of the truck as 11500.
I meant to say 19500 lbs.
The combined rig actually weighs 19400 lbs 100 under the max.

I guess I should preview, before I hit submit !!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 06:24 AM
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I see that your present truck is a 1Ton. I was hoping you weren't thing about a diesel F250.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 07:21 AM
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My 5th wheel has a 2380 lb pin weight, and I haul plenty of other stuff when I tow.
i will stick with the 350.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 06:59 PM
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I'd wait for the 7.3 gas and ten speed.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Screamingbear
My 5th wheel has a 2380 lb pin weight, and I haul plenty of other stuff when I tow.
i will stick with the 350.
Thank you....I see so many F250 trucks pulling trailer that have them anywhere from "overloaded"....all the way to "OMG" overloaded. Then they say....I pull my xxxx brand 5ver with my F250 and it tows just fine....hardly know it's back there. Then when you look up the specs on their trailer.......they are OMG overloaded and just don't know any better.
 
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Depending on your exact non-towing driving, you'll have to be the judge on SB vs LB. I went with the SB so it fits in the garage. Regarding the tank size, I'll be upgrading to a Titan Fuel Tank later this Fall / Winter. That upgrade puts a 55 gal tank in place of the OEM ~34 gal tank.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2019 | 08:57 PM
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I went Long

Well.…. I decided to stick with a Long box.
Got with my dealer, he could not find anything like I wanted, so I ordered a 2019 F350 CCLB 6.7L XLT Premium.
Now I just need to wait 8 weeks !!!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2019 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Screamingbear
Well.…. I decided to stick with a Long box.
Got with my dealer, he could not find anything like I wanted, so I ordered a 2019 F350 CCLB 6.7L XLT Premium.
Now I just need to wait 8 weeks !!!

2 or 4 wheel drive? Based on your posting it here I assume DRW?
Ford prepared bed mounting hitch holes?
Optional trailer connecting cameras?
What color? White yields best MPG.
 
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