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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 03:58 PM
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We have 2 2017 F-250 King Ranch with a 6.7. Now I have had diesels almost all of my life, but never anything like this and in a pickup. I have been searching this and other forums for some information on this Re Generation thing. And it seems every where I go I get a different message. My last 2 Fords were a 2004 450 and a 2005 550, both 6.0 and service trucks. The 2004 went 11 months and 103.000 miles and trashed SO i got rid of it and leased the 2005 so I would not be out the 15 grand for a new motor again. Now Momma, and I have this F-250 King Ranch Crew cab that has so much computer stuff on it that I have no idea what it is doing. I have read that the 2017 6.7's don't regen like my sons 6.4. Yet I have seen articles that say they do. What is the real story? Do they do through this process like my tractor and my sons truck, or not? I know this has probably been answered somewhere,, butt I just have not been able to find a real answer. Any help you guys would be able to give me would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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The DPF on the 6.7s will do a regen every 500 miles or so, or less if pulling heavy. Other than a drop in fuel mileage, it is hard to tell when it is happening, as it is automatically done.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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All 6.7 L Powerstrokes do an Active Regen. Your sons 2008-2010 6.4L did a first Gen Regen. The 6.7L are the next generation and do a smarter regen that the 6.4L

The 6.7L can also do a Passive Regen when exhaust temps get above 572°F.. Reducing the need for as many active regens. But as mentioned above. The truck will do a mandatory active regen about every 500 miles regardless of the soot percentage in the DPF. ( Diesel Particulate Filter)

The early 6.7L gave you a message for two seconds when an active regen started. The newer trucks don't display a message, So the only way you know they are an active regen is by watching the fuel mileage drop or a 3rd party display ( Edge or Forscan or something similar)

The 6.7L also has a SCR that uses DEF to remove NOx from your exhaust but is a totally separate process from the Active or Passive Regen.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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Thank you so very much. Since we don't put that many miles on it I guess we would not know when it did one. Now My son's truck, you knew. My tractor, you really know. But I am very happy to hear this. Now I can stop worrying and just enjoy the ride.
Again thanks for your quick reply.
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 05:38 PM
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Thanks so much to everyone that has replied.It means a lot to get this crap off my mind. We usually only keep a vehicle for 5 years then trade it in. They always have around 32000 miles on them at that time. But we are hoping to keep this one a lot longer. At our ages(70) who wants to go looking for another one. This one has so much stuff in it we probably will not even figure all of it out.
Have a great day everyone and thanks again.
Bob
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 05:52 PM
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Mine regens on average about every 425 miles , + or - . Did a static regen this morning because the filter reached 100% at 3/4's of my 23 mile trip home from work .

 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 05:56 PM
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Never seen anything like that before. The truck only has 19,000 miles on it that was why we were concerned. But it must be working. It is running fine and I have the fuel filters changed every 6 months just to be safe.
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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Mine does not ten when in region . Why does yours
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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The very worst that will occur with the regen is if you might get a message telling you to drive the truck. The owner's manual is pretty thorough in describing the system and how it works. A lot of people are distressed about the system. Not completely unfounded. There were some issues with prior systems. Word gets around. Modern systems are quite trouble and worry free. After all, they couldn't sell these trucks (and diesel cars since they use exactly the same systems) if they were a huge pain in the *** to own.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 07:30 PM
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Again I thank everyone for helping me with this question. I also noticed a mistake in my original post, we only have one of these trucks, not two. Guess i needed to put my other glasses on. But anyway, i just did not understand how it worked and I have went through the manual several times and never could find anything. Guess I didn't know what to look under. Either that or it is in that supplement book.
But anyway, I understand it now and i am fine with all of the explanations i have gotten for everyone here. SO again, thanks for all of the valuable information and help.
Bob
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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Mine only has 1500mi. but I think I have noticed it regen 3 times. I notice the smell but also to me it sounds different, last time while driving around town it even seemed to shift differently. I have not been able to pick up on the MPG drop thats associated with it, the avg. mpg display on the dash takes many miles before it shows a change in MPG.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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For what it’s worth, I got my first diesel (2019 King Ranch Crew with 6.7” box & FX4) a few months ago. Have owned two F150s prior, each staying with me for 11 years at a time. I didn’t know about the Regen/DPF cleaning on these until I started reading this forum. So far, I have 4K miles on mine (it’s my daily driver as well as towing an Airstream or medium sized trailer to a hobby ranch on occasion). I’ve honestly never noticed the Regen occurring. In town, on highway, etc. No idea it’s going on and really don’t see mileage hits (I always have the instant mileage screen up). So it’s happening, clearly, but just seems to be working as designed. Those who do monitor it are using an aftermarket device and software program called FORSCAN to enable being able to watch it. I’m an engineer in my day job, so once I found out about that, I purposely stayed away as I’m sure I’d get way too in the weeds tinkering with it. Perhaps I’m taking a simplified approach to this, but I’m leaving it alone and letting it work as designed. So far, so good, because truck has been just stellar (zero issues at all) and drives and pulls the two trailers with ease. I love it!

ill add one thing. Thanks to this forum, I read about the myriad random electrical faults or gremlins being associated with water getting into the plugs near spare tire on the frame. Following the advice, when truck was a month old, I got under there and pulled all four apart and injected dielectric grease in both sides to seal out water. I’ve been in a lot of rain and I think that was such an easy preventative measure that has seemingly worked great. Again, not a single issue with my truck whatsoever.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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Robert, welcome to the clean Diesel era. My last Diesel was completely deleted to rid the issues of regen and engine killing EGR from the 6.4l days.. My 2020 will remain stock, so I'll be dealing with it myself. The emission technology is far and away better from the 6.4l era, so it's now just a very minor inconvenience to do our part for clean air.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 08:19 PM
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'17 450 at 61000 miles--never seen any dash indication of a regen. When almost new, had a job during winter in OH that required many hours of idling to keep warm. Never saw a dash notice, but idle would increase to 1200 and engine temp would go up about 20d, lasted about 10-15 minutes each time. Usually about 2 regens/12 hours.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 06:36 AM
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Here is a video where I also describe some ways to notice if you are in a regen. 1. MPG, 2. Turbo boost gauge behavior, 3. Pedal sensitivity. You can also turn on your DPF % filter via forscan and that will give you a great heads up that you are about to enter a regen and you can see the cleaning process in action as the %'s fall.

 
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