Highly disappointed while attempting to replace front rotors
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Highly disappointed while attempting to replace front rotors
So I got myself new pads, calipers, and rotors for my 85 F250HD 4WD. Sat down to take the wheel off and am greeted with what I was not expecting; The wheel hub in front of the rotor!
I was/am not prepared to take apart the front hubs. Partially afraid of things I might find in there. I suspect I need to take off everything to get the rotor free and off, right?
Any good write-ups or videos to link? My shop manuals are clear as mud on this one.
I was/am not prepared to take apart the front hubs. Partially afraid of things I might find in there. I suspect I need to take off everything to get the rotor free and off, right?
Any good write-ups or videos to link? My shop manuals are clear as mud on this one.
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That's your personal choice, but I've always remained fully clothed while working on my truck.
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Here's a link to a recent thread about this. I put a you tube link in one of the posts that will guide you through a lot of it, with minor differences in the brake area. Just doing the rotors you will not have to take the spindle cone off either. You will want to get some heavy wheel bearing grease, and new grease seals. If inspection reveals it, a new bearing or two may be required. In other words, this is your first time, don't rush it.
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Great tip about the clothes! I could have embarrassed myself pretty good.
So I am getting the impression that the hub and rotor will be tied together by the studs? Am I looking at needing a shop press to press out the studs?
So I am getting the impression that the hub and rotor will be tied together by the studs? Am I looking at needing a shop press to press out the studs?
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Use a good hammer and wack them out, swap rotors to the hub and using a new stud , flat washers, nut and little grease put a stud in and line up the holes a few flat washers with grease between them and a nut upside down. Do the same in a hole across from the one just installed.
Now start to tighten the nuts up a little on each side till the hub and rotor are together. Now work your way around installing the rest of the studs.
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Could go to HF and buy a press and all the new studs, should never reuse the old ones,and press them in yourself.
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You could take all the new studs, should never reuse the old ones, to the machine shop and have them press them in.
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Yeah, wouldn't want to reuse the studs anyways. Borderline cross threaded. So what studs are recommended? I can go look up what AZ will give me if there is nothing special.
Not afraid of hammering. Seen the washer trick too. Debating if I can rationalize buying a shop press. It's quite the show in my head. Would take longer I can imagine.
Not afraid of hammering. Seen the washer trick too. Debating if I can rationalize buying a shop press. It's quite the show in my head. Would take longer I can imagine.
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The studs are nothing fancy but you do need the right size knurl dia. & length and the thread size & length you will be ok.
When looking at AZ site I saw something about a stud installer I have always used the washer trick.
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When looking at AZ site I saw something about a stud installer I have always used the washer trick.
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Looked at it and all it had going for it was that it being in one piece and the recess for the nut cone.
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Need to get an axle spindle nut socket (thinking that is the name) but I see different styles when I search for an f250hd 4x4. Do I need just the 4 pronged version or the one with 4 offset inverted prongs (and some are wavey)?
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They make a bunch of different ones to fit different axles.
The wavy ones are stamped sockets for a large nut.
If you can see what you need then rent one so you know it will work then if you feel you need one to then buy it.
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The wavy ones are stamped sockets for a large nut.
If you can see what you need then rent one so you know it will work then if you feel you need one to then buy it.
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I got mine at my local O'Reillys for $20.
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Yeah, my local AZ has both styles. They are actually pretty cool with returns. I can clean something up really good and they would take a return. Always do store credit since so maybe that helps.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
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Yeah, my local AZ has both styles. They are actually pretty cool with returns. I can clean something up really good and they would take a return. Always do store credit since so maybe that helps.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
I would really recommend doing the bearings, since you're right there. The inner one (on my Bronco at least) went inside the back of the rotor so I had to anyways.
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Yeah, my local AZ has both styles. They are actually pretty cool with returns. I can clean something up really good and they would take a return. Always do store credit since so maybe that helps.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
Guess my final question would be what seals would I have to replace if any? I did not see any seals when looking at some write ups and a couple videos. Also, I don't plan on messing with the wheel bearings just yet.
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I did it a while back.
after the project was completed I treated myself to some Knipex pliers.
there is a weird two piece nut inside but its no big deal.
I didnt buy anything new except grease and two seals.
that two piece nut I did not torque the crap out of it like specified.
oh well
after the project was completed I treated myself to some Knipex pliers.
there is a weird two piece nut inside but its no big deal.
I didnt buy anything new except grease and two seals.
that two piece nut I did not torque the crap out of it like specified.
oh well