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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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Hello to you all, just wondering if it is possible to install a gearbox in an Areostar 1993- 3.0l xl.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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What kind of gear box?

The 4wd versions of the Aerostar replaced the long tail shaft housing with a shorter housing that mated to a transfer case, so there is some space for some kind of gear box behind the main case of the transmission. You need something that matches the rear bolt pattern of the A4LD transmission.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 04:06 PM
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This Areostar belong to my father who is passing it on to me. The transmission has been to the shop twice because all tranny fuild was dumped on the road in traffic. It is a 1993 rear wheel drive 3.0L xl. Inspected today and see signs of leaking from the front and rear of the tranny. Just wondering if I could drop a manual gearbox in and forget about the automatic transmission.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:07 PM
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There were Aerostars with manual transmissions. I think it was a version of the Mazda M5OD. You would have to find a donor van to get the parts.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 06:25 AM
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Ok thanks, I was reading about that transmission. I will see if I can find a Mazda, ranger or bronco in my neck of the woods. Here in Jamaica a trip to the tranny shop is $90,000 ja ( rate is $132.00 x $1 us.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 08:05 AM
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An interesting exercise for a hobbyist but, having done an auto->manual swap before, on another vehicle, I can advise you that it will be cheaper and more productive for you to fix /maintain /update your current auto tranny.
You would otherwise be faced with sourcing and engineering for...
- Tranny, in known good condition
- Cross member, possibly different
- Shifter, if not integral to the box
- Driveshaft, typically a different length
- Clutch (several components)
- Flywheel ( instead of flex plate)
- Pedal set
- Hydraulic reservoir & lines
- Wiring harness, to mod the operation of backup lights and PNDL lockout.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RojoStar
An interesting exercise for a hobbyist but, having done an auto->manual swap before, on another vehicle, I can advise you that it will be cheaper and more productive for you to fix /maintain /update your current auto tranny.
You would otherwise be faced with sourcing and engineering for...
- Tranny, in known good condition
- Cross member, possibly different
- Shifter, if not integral to the box
- Driveshaft, typically a different length
- Clutch (several components)
- Flywheel ( instead of flex plate)
- Pedal set
- Hydraulic reservoir & lines
- Wiring harness, to mod the operation of backup lights and PNDL lockout.
Wow,so if I decide to go ahead with the swap it would be better if I buy the donor van?
I have found a 91 sreostar with a burn fuel pump, could that tranny be used
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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All those manual parts could probably be adapted to your automatic van, but if the only thing wrong with the 91 is the burnt fuel pump, it would be a lot easier just to replace that, compared to the list the Rojostar provided.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 01:46 PM
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Yes I believe using the 91 transmission is the best bet for now. Thanks for the input.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 06:10 PM
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Is it dumping fluid because its overheating? Hows the radiator? Did the seals get replaced in the tranny?
My 3.0 was doing to same thing when run hard with the A/C in the Florida heat.
New radiator and new seals in the tranny fixed it
 
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Old Jun 29, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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The Ford A4LD: Get To Know Its Problems And How To Prevent Them google a4ld front seal fix. its a known problem.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2019 | 01:52 AM
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I like how the article states that the A4LD is one of the worst transmissions that Ford ever made. I've heard enough stories to believe that. But I've been fortunate to not have had any problems with mine. I have replaced one of the stock coolers with an aftermarket version about 10 years ago. The biggest problem I've had with it was the kick-down cable not wanting to keep its adjustment, which causes the transmission to spin freely sometimes when I tried to kick down.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Meanwhile I've been into Frankentranny twice in the past 10 days,
and now consider myself a well seasoned technician.
Current story #1: OD sprag and obliterated frictions as per Zenish link. Root cause unknown, not proven, but I was goofying around with the gear shifter at the time.
Overall tranny health lasted only 4 trip, 15 miles total, leading to current story #2: reverse gear gone. Was due to rev piston not seated properly on rev band during fix #1.
Rev piston shaft bent, tip sheared, piston seized, rev band not applied, no reverse gear.
During fix #2, a torrington started loosing its needle bearings.
****
My point is not to contribute to the pile of stories but to point out how easy and quick it is to get into the unit and make repairs.
The biggest headache is the dwindling support in the parts channel and is getting worse quickly.
I'm managing my inventory of replacement parts and, for instance, now have two sets of OD sprags on the shelf, two friction kits, etc.
Long term I'm looking to adapt something newer, more robust, better support, 6 speeds.
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Elsewhere I will (someday) do a couple of write-ups, one on how to very quickly pull and install the unit.

{Done: Transmission, pull / install notes}
 
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Originally Posted by RojoStar
Meanwhile I've been into Frankentranny twice in the past 10 days,
and now consider myself a well seasoned technician.
Current story #1: OD sprag and obliterated frictions as per Zenish link. Root cause unknown, not proven, but I was goofying around with the gear shifter at the time.
Overall tranny health lasted only 4 trip, 15 miles total, leading to current story #2: reverse gear gone. Was due to rev piston not seated properly on rev band during fix #1.
Rev piston shaft bent, tip sheared, piston seized, rev band not applied, no reverse gear.
During fix #2, a torrington started loosing its needle bearings.
****
My point is not to contribute to the pile of stories but to point out how easy and quick it is to get into the unit and make repairs.
The biggest headache is the dwindling support in the parts channel and is getting worse quickly.
I'm managing my inventory of replacement parts and, for instance, now have two sets of OD sprags on the shelf, two friction kits, etc.
Long term I'm looking to adapt something newer, more robust, better support, 6 speeds.
****
Elsewhere I will (someday) do a couple of write-ups, one on how to very quickly pull and install the unit.
thats why i bought my five speed van...fear of the automatic trans dieing and costing too much to fix.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2019 | 06:58 AM
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whatever is done is not going to be cheap unless you can do it yourself and resolve all issues yourself.

try one of the transmission exchange-rebuilders that advertise on most Craigslist sites. In Florida they advertise constantly.

if you can get the last year Aerostar transmission, it has 4 speeds ( 3 + Overdrive), I forget the model name of the transmission.

Mine has proven reliable since 2013 when I bought the 1997 Aerostar RWD Extended body. ( 1997 was the last year for Aerostar).
 
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