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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 08:02 PM
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Not necessarily bad they are lowering them as these trucks are getting huge. Almost nerve racking pulling a Gooseneck.

But I like the big truck as i hardly tow.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 08:36 PM
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Hey George C what are you going with this year? The 7.3L gas or a 6.7? I'm leaning towards my 1st gas engine in years with the new new 7.3L..
Can buy a lot of gas for what Ford charges for the upgrade to the 6.7L..
 
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 09:04 PM
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They're all getting lowered. F250s, F350 SRWs, DRWs
This should clear things up.
Only the 250 will be lowered.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rutcutter
Hey George C what are you going with this year? The 7.3L gas or a 6.7? I'm leaning towards my 1st gas engine in years with the new new 7.3L..
Can buy a lot of gas for what Ford charges for the upgrade to the 6.7L..
Rut, I’m going with the diesel. I currently have a gas (although not comparable to the 7.3L) and I miss the low end power.. I want to be able to tow my boat longer distances comfortably.
I’m not sure what I’m ordering yet. So little info. Maybe a Lariat ultimate if we get new two tone colors, or more likely a Limited depending on how weak I get. Maybe an F-450 if they offer a choice in higher gears. I love that look.
Impatiently waiting for the order guide. Grrr...

How about you?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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They both look the same height to me.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they lower the rear of the 250 though.

Sure we will have exact details later. I know the fin antenna is bigger/taller by a good bit.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 09:49 PM
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I'm thinking about going with a gas 7.3L F350 this year just because not only of the cost factor but I don't tow anything real heavy long distance an as of the moment all my work is mainly within a 150 mile area now.
May still get the 6.7 as I loved all of mine but it's a lot of money that could be spent on gas an oil changes etc.

I haven't had a gas engine since I had one of the 8.1L Vortec engines back in the day when I was driving GM products in a 2500 ext cab short bed with a 4.10 gear set.
To tell the truth i'm not getting hardly any better mpg's than it was as I mainly see 9-10 mpg with the tire setup I have now.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
They both look the same height to me.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they lower the rear of the 250 though.

Sure we will have exact details later. I know the fin antenna is bigger/taller by a good bit.
The 350 in the pic does seem the same height, but consider its carrying a 4x4 in the bed which would explain why.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutcutter
I'm thinking about going with a gas 7.3L F350 this year just because not only of the cost factor but I don't tow anything real heavy long distance an as of the moment all my work is mainly within a 150 mile area now.
May still get the 6.7 as I loved all of mine but it's a lot of money that could be spent on gas an oil changes etc.

I haven't had a gas engine since I had one of the 8.1L Vortec engines back in the day when I was driving GM products in a 2500 ext cab short bed with a 4.10 gear set.
To tell the truth i'm not getting hardly any better mpg's than it was as I mainly see 9-10 mpg with the tire setup I have now.
True, the gas engine should give you everything you want.
I guess I look at it this way.
Think of the resale value difference which would be half of the difference at least, and then add in the joy factor of having twice the amount of torque available. Is that realistic difference worth the joy factor? I think yes yes.

If the 7.3l turns out to be a pig, resale will go into the dumper, especially if (when) gas prices rise.. We know what we have with the diesel, and the 20' should be even more efficient.
I'm keeping my current GMC gas for plowing and for the business, but I'm not buying another gas truck for my personal use.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 07:23 AM
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The 6.2 gas motor is great in my experience, cant imagine how good the 7.3 will be for people who need a gasser and tow. Lot of people in cold climates or do consistent short trips get the gas.

6.2 is a tough powerful motor already and the oil change is the same price as my girls Scion. I had really good luck with mine.

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The 350 in the pic does seem the same height, but consider its carrying a 4x4 in the bed which would explain why.

Maybe but that things not that heavy. We’ll see what they’ll actually do later this year. I bet the people who really use these everyday or pull 5th wheels will be happy with a small drop. My actual work truck is a 2wd longbed for that reason.

Ford still sold F250s after 1977.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by George C
This should clear things up.
Only the 250 will be lowered.
That's not a Ford engineer in that video. Here starting at around the 11:00 minute mark, the Ford engineer states all (SRWs and DRWs) will be lowered. Please explain why they'd only do the F250 based on their reasoning for lowering. Lowering the F350s would make more sense based on his comment of easing goose-neck and 5th wheel hookup since they are more compatible for those applications.

 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 03:40 PM
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And from another Ford engineer, at 5:50.....

 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by h20camper
That's not a Ford engineer in that video. Here starting at around the 11:00 minute mark, the Ford engineer states all (SRWs and DRWs) will be lowered. Please explain why they'd only do the F250 based on their reasoning for lowering. Lowering the F350s would make more sense based on his comment of easing goose-neck and 5th wheel hookup since they are more compatible for those applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-aEEbdLR8
Explain why?
Ask Ford, the 250 and DRW trucks have always been lower than the 350, until the 17’ model. The same engineer reverses himself in ForCal’s vid and verifies the ride height will remain the same on the 350. The guy was probably trying to get away from “Mr. Truck’s” bad Breath.
I’m sure the 350 will remain the same height as the current truck.. If not, then it’s not. No big deal.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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All BS if you ask me. Considering all the threads youll find in here about lifting and leveling. There are many guys in here who have leveled by lowering the rear. Way more are leveling the front up. The engineer talks about ease of entry?? By lowering 1/2 inch? I cant even believe hes saying that. Its a truck. 90% or more have running boards or steps. Personally I like it higher. I could have waited for a 2020. I bought a 19 because I am not a big fan of the grill change. And I have felt the 17+ Super Duties have been one of the best looking trucks Ford has made to date. And by far the best of the big three on the market today. Enough so that I wanted one as soon as they came out. I took delivery of a 17 450 at work in Jan. 17 and have wanted one since I felt the comfort of the base seats.
Not to say the 2020s look bad. But I prefer the 19s. I would be more likely to level up than down. I got 20" wheels and will go to 295/65/20s. Which will fit without a level. But if anything I would level up an inch or so. I got the snow plow prep. If I felt it rode too harsh I would level with springs. But its my intent to go to the larger tires and remain stock otherwise. I bought after market running boards which are similar to Raptor boards because they sit high and tight. It is a bit of a step up. Im 63 and 5'8". My wife is 5'4". No problem getting in.
If there was anything to wait over for me it would be the big block gas.
If you look at old trucks for sale youll see the "High Boy" trucks from the late 60s to mid 70s are wildly popular. Followed by the next generation which were lowered a few inches. But whenever you see them... particularly crew cabs... youll see 4" lifts to make them look right.
The average lift on a 17 to 19 is 1 to 2 inches of level to easily fit 37s. I guess the 2020s will be needing 4" lifts.
All BS...just my 2 cents....
 
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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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I had a 2018 F350 with the 6.2L and the 4.30 gears. I tried to like it I really did. I was left unsatisfied with the power. To each his own but it just wasn't for me. Towed a 5k camper back from IA to CO and got in the 5's for mpgs due to a bad headwind almost the whole trip. Add that to the hills and I was forced to run the engine a little harder to eliminate constant shifting in and out of gears. Plus, I tow up through the CO mountains quite a bit and I just got plain tired of running at over 5k rpms up the passes just to keep speed. Yes, I know these can run at sustained high rpms and that 5k is no big deal. Again, not for me. I also really enjoy being able to pass others if needed.

I love my 2019 F250 6.7L now but I still absolutely hate the emissions crud they force on you now. I am torn between a full delete and the new 7.3L gasser. If the HP and torque numbers are a fair amount better I would totally consider one. My plan is to wait two to three years to see how these 7.3's do with the 10 speed tranny. If they are rock solid, my 2019 will only have 15k on it so my resale would be fantastic. I could almost sell outright and pay cash for a new gasser.

My .02 is to buy a 19 or wait a couple years minimum just to be safe.
 
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