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Old 06-08-2019, 03:08 PM
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New radio with Door AND Dash speaker?

I'm going to be putting in a single DIN radio in the 77, with new door speakers as well.

I've read a lot of threads in here (very helpful) on experiences doing so, but I do have 2 questions.

1. Is there a "go-to" technical thread done by anyone on the full scale new wiring in of a new modern single DIN radio and speakers? I've gotten tidbits here and there from other threads, but I can't seem to find one as an authority.

2. Is it possible to have the radio wired into both the 2 door speakers AND the in-dash center speaker?

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Old 06-10-2019, 09:17 AM
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I am wiring my truck with a NOS AM/FM MONO radio just so I can pick up the FM stations. My truck came with an AM radio and only the dash speaker. I know a lot of the guys have said that you need to make sure you match the speaker OHMs with your radio, so you don't do damage to your radio.

With a MONO radio, I don't see why I (personally) couldn't do what you are talking about BUT, I am not sure about your radio.
IOW... a lot of variables.... so there may not be a thread like you are looking for here.

Maybe start a thread and list your specifics and ask for advice (??).

 
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Originally Posted by M4Munson
Is it possible to have the radio wired into both the 2 door speakers AND the in-dash center speaker?
That depends on if your new radio has provisions for a center speaker. If so, you should be able to wire it up and control the levels and such from the radio settings. Matching the impedance of the door speakers to the center speaker will make life easier for you and put less strain on the radio circuitry.

If it’s purely a two-channel stereo radio, it’s possible, but more trouble than it’s worth. To do it properly, you’d need a bridged amplifier for the center speaker, with its own gain control so you can adjust its volume separately from the door speakers. Simply bridging the radio’s stereo output will end up with an out of phase signal and could damage the radio’s amp.

Unless your radio already has a center channel built in, I’d leave the dash speaker alone. You could also wire it to a CB, or an AUX input with a small dedicated mono amp. In a truck cab, having a center speaker won’t really make that much difference to the listening experience, so you should only use it if it’s easy.
 
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:29 PM
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You could get a dual channel speaker from Custom Autosound or the like, and put that in the dash location. Presumably your new head unit has provisions for 4 speakers, run the front outputs to the dual speaker in the dash and the back outputs to the speakers in the doors.

https://customautosoundmfg.com/product/dual-speakers
 
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by biasvoltage
You could get a dual channel speaker from Custom Autosound or the like, and put that in the dash location. Presumably your new head unit has provisions for 4 speakers, run the front outputs to the dual speaker in the dash and the back outputs to the speakers in the doors.

https://customautosoundmfg.com/product/dual-speakers
That is exactly what I decided to do. I'll update once I've got everything hooked up.
 
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I used a Custom Autosound stereo the P.O. installed but I installed a set of component speakers in the doors, I also put the foam cup behind them, makes them sound better and protect from elements. Not sure if you like the idea, but I put the Custom Autosound Undercover II behind the seats, they sound great, wish I could have but them under the seat but custom brackets prevent that, but they should fit under a standard bench. Now I can blast the tunes

The P.O. had the dash speaker and the drivers side door speaker set as the front left and right and the passenger door as the rear left, no rear right.... It sounded like total garbage. Also had the + & - reversed on some of them causing the volume control to spaz out...
 
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Originally Posted by njdevil77
I used a Custom Autosound stereo the P.O. installed but I installed a set of component speakers in the doors, I also put the foam cup behind them, makes them sound better and protect from elements. Not sure if you like the idea, but I put the Custom Autosound Undercover II behind the seats, they sound great, wish I could have but them under the seat but custom brackets prevent that, but they should fit under a standard bench. Now I can blast the tunes

The P.O. had the dash speaker and the drivers side door speaker set as the front left and right and the passenger door as the rear left, no rear right.... It sounded like total garbage. Also had the + & - reversed on some of them causing the volume control to spaz out...
Do you have any pics of that foam cup you installed? Curious what it is.
 
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Yup, same as those, but got mine on Feebay. Just trim to fit, and I also put rattle mat (dyna mat for less money) on the doors to kill the tinny sound.
 
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Originally Posted by 84espy
Lots of stereo stores sell them. They are like these.
https://www.amazon.com/Install-Bay-S...s%2C202&sr=8-5
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Yup, same as those, but got mine on Feebay. Just trim to fit, and I also put rattle mat (dyna mat for less money) on the doors to kill the tinny sound.
Neat. Never seen this stuff before. Thanks for the link + info.
 
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Center speaker

I use the center speaker for the external speaker on the CB. It works great. Those factory center speakers are best suited for am radio or talk radio so they do well for cb.
 
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The speaker holes in the doors... what size speakers do they accommodate?
 
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5 1/4” bolt right in, 6.5” takes just a shade of trimming in the doors - one that I bought had a pair of 4” mounted under the old center grille, basically a poor mans dual channel. Looks like it fit pretty nice, PO used a couple strips of flat to mount em. Those 2 along with the door speakers actually sounded quite good ( I’m not an audiophile, though). Simple wiring and pretty loud for no amp or anything.
 
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Originally Posted by JakeHan
5 1/4” bolt right in...
Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by CharlieXLT
The speaker holes in the doors... what size speakers do they accommodate?
Here's a pic of what I'm putting in. 6.5" I haven't installed them yet but I unboxed them and verified they will fit. The mounting rings have multiple mounting holes. I can't remember which ones exactly match up with the screw holes already in my door, but they do match up.
 


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