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Old May 7, 2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KCRebel
May I ask how much your premium for glass replacement is? I've had several different insurance companies over the years in several states. Never been offered. To be fair I have only asked my current insurance (AllState) and my agent said it wasn't offered. Would be nice to know how much it costs vs the glass cost over time.
Both Liberty Mutual and State Farm offer $0 deductible glass on their comprehensive policy for no extra money. I carry a $0 comp deductible regardless but it costs nothing more for $0 glass.

I have had several windshields replaced, the most expensive was on my previous 07 6.0 Harley Davidson's F250. That was almost $1,000 because the glass had all the little Harley emblems across the top. Zero cost.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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Satellite did mine with no cal. I was told if all went well all would be ok but sometimes all things don't work correctly then calibration would be needed.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pspc271
So as with many of you I have a huge crack in my windshield that started as a stone chip. I am getting ready to schedule the replacement with Safelite and they are suggesting that I have the Advanced Driver Assistance System recalibrated. Anyone know if this is necessary? It's a 2018 F350 Lariat with the lane keep assist and all that jazz. Safelite wants $300 to do the recalibration, is this required or a scam?
I realize I'm late to the party, but its a SCAM!!! I was told the aftermarket windshield is harder to install with the cameras, but my OEM that I had done today was simple. My insurance company paid for it. They asked if I had a camera, but that's all they said about it. It literally took the tech an hour to swap it.

BTW, if I had to pay out of pocket, my cost would have been $465 for OEM or $285 for aftermarket.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KCRebel
Last comment on this topic I promise. In case it wasn't clearly stated above I have actual replacement experience and info from the glass industry. I DID NOT use the Ford logo stamped glass also referred to as OEM. ZERO issues. Both local Ford dealerships had zero interest in replacing it and referred me back to the same glass shop. I even went so far as to ask them about any potential issues with replacing the glass since at that time the truck only had 1800 miles on it and was still new to me and I was new to Ford. Both dealerships just laughed and said they had never heard of any recalibration.
There is 1 glass for our trucks. Of that 1 glass some have the Ford logo stamped on them. Some don't. That is the only difference. Same company makes both. You can't get one without the sound deadening layer as they all have it.

I'm reminded of the old saying "A fool and his money are soon parted". Just trying to help you guys not waste money as this world is full of folks ready and willing to say and do anything to take it from you.
KCRebel , you are somewhat misinformed. I have owned my glass shop for 27 years so I feel that the information I'm providing has some value for the folks who are confused. There are seven different windshield part numbers all of which will fit in a 17+superduty. Some are acoustic(sound) and some are with rain sensors and others have the logo and or third visor frits. Calibration is absolutely required and it is dynamic not static. Can it work without it? Probably but it is supposed to be done so it works a good as it can. Calibration is relatively new and a lot of dealers are not aware of the requirement but are quickly learning. The calibration equipment is very expensive and most smaller glass shops can not afford it so they tell customers it is not needed since they don't have the ability. Please see the the calibration procedures below.

Dynamic Calibration Procedure (Camera Aiming): Note: Will need a straight, flat road with multiple lanes where the car may drive at least 45 mph for around 10 minutes. Please note, some models will require you to drive for 20-25 minutes. Weather must be clear (no rain, fog, snow). Calibration should be completed with two people. 1. Connect the scan tool and turn the vehicle on 2. Check for any error codes 3. Follow prompts on scan tool 4. If calibration is unsuccessful: a. Disconnect scan tool from the vehicle, restart the calibration process b. If calibration continues to be unsuccessful, send a Log Report
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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Gabar, I’ll bite. How do you know it’s more than just a logo? Please share your dot experience of dot approved products?
Pretty bold statement that lacks any kind of reference for credibility.
To answer your question you are exactly right. The cost difference is called branding.
Enlighten me on what you know differently. My info came from the manufacturer and a dot approved glass shop. What about yours?
Well you need to do some research on the subject. Find out how the process works when a OEM puts out bids to make the glass to a specific specification Safelite may have been in the competition who knows. .

Safelite is not required to be to the same Ford Specification as a Ford replacement. Optical quality goes into this as well and when I replaced mine the Ford glass was only about 40 bucks maybe more, if memory serves more expensive. My installer uses both and he said he can tell a difference.

I guess you learned a hard lesson here ---better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and everyone knows you have no clue about the subject matter to which you profess knowledge of.

This is a good overview. https://info.glass.com/oem-vs-aftermarket-glass/
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blwnsmoke
Both Liberty Mutual and State Farm offer $0 deductible glass on their comprehensive policy for no extra money. I carry a $0 comp deductible regardless but it costs nothing more for $0 glass.

I have had several windshields replaced, the most expensive was on my previous 07 6.0 Harley Davidson's F250. That was almost $1,000 because the glass had all the little Harley emblems across the top. Zero cost.
Some states such as Texas do not have "glass" coverage as separate any longer.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Busa 1 Dave
Well you need to do some research on the subject. Find out how the process works when a OEM puts out bids to make the glass to a specific specification Safelite may have been in the competition who knows. .

Safelite is not required to be to the same Ford Specification as a Ford replacement. Optical quality goes into this as well and when I replaced mine the Ford glass was only about 40 bucks maybe more, if memory serves more expensive. My installer uses both and he said he can tell a difference.

I guess you learned a hard lesson here ---better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and everyone knows you have no clue about the subject matter to which you profess knowledge of.

This is a good overview. https://info.glass.com/oem-vs-aftermarket-glass/

Safelite no longer makes glass. They stopped over a year ago, anything left with their logo is old stock. Yes their glass was poor quality’.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 12:25 AM
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Well you need to do some research on the subject. Find out how the process works when a OEM puts out bids to make the glass to a specific specification Safelite may have been in the competition who knows. .

I guess you learned a hard lesson here ---better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and everyone knows you have no clue about the subject matter to which you profess knowledge of.
The glass shop I referred to has been in business for over 50 years. The information I shared came from there and the glass manufacturer. Maybe you didn't take the time to read that in my previous post.
I stand by what I posted and simply sharing the information straight from the source.
So I will take your advice with a grain of salt seeing how your reading comprehension is as low as your ability to make recommendations.
By the way I'm sure the OP appreciates your input on the post as it provided so much useful info but we have all read enough of your posts on here to know that useful info rarely comes from you anyways...
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by aaglass01
KCRebel , you are somewhat misinformed. I have owned my glass shop for 27 years so I feel that the information I'm providing has some value for the folks who are confused. There are seven different windshield part numbers all of which will fit in a 17+superduty. Some are acoustic(sound) and some are with rain sensors and others have the logo and or third visor frits. Calibration is absolutely required and it is dynamic not static. Can it work without it? Probably but it is supposed to be done so it works a good as it can. Calibration is relatively new and a lot of dealers are not aware of the requirement but are quickly learning. The calibration equipment is very expensive and most smaller glass shops can not afford it so they tell customers it is not needed since they don't have the ability. Please see the the calibration procedures below.

Dynamic Calibration Procedure (Camera Aiming): Note: Will need a straight, flat road with multiple lanes where the car may drive at least 45 mph for around 10 minutes. Please note, some models will require you to drive for 20-25 minutes. Weather must be clear (no rain, fog, snow). Calibration should be completed with two people. 1. Connect the scan tool and turn the vehicle on 2. Check for any error codes 3. Follow prompts on scan tool 4. If calibration is unsuccessful: a. Disconnect scan tool from the vehicle, restart the calibration process b. If calibration continues to be unsuccessful, send a Log Report
Thanks for your response and the information. Like I mentioned above I was simply sharing what a glass shop that has been in business over 50 years told me along with the glass manufacturer. Glass was and continues to be their primary means of revenue. They are one of the largest glass companies in the region. They do all of the glass work for the commercial fleet businesses. All that to say they are far from small and they have the latest equipment. Cameras and sensors have been on vehicles for many years now so they are far from new. Maybe new to Ford but not others.
Who do you source your glass from?
To answer your question on if the vehicle works it absolutely will with zero issues. I've got over 17k miles on my non calibrated non logo glass.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 06:50 AM
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@KCRebel Your post was informational and a basis for my decision to not go with Safelite replacement at $569 dollars. Going with another local glass shop for a non-logo replacement for $360 out the door. Here in Colorado my insurance company stopped offering glass in comprehensive insurance bundle. Go figure with the recent hail storms. I suspect I'll be replacing again so decided to save some money. Despite having 3-F150s, a 2500HD Silverado and now a 18' F350 I still come here for information and your comments are appreciated.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 07:56 AM
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KCRebel your welcome. We source our glass from Mygrant, Pilkington, PGW and dealerships. Can you find out what brand calibration tool they are using? I just have this feeling that they don't have one yet if they are giving you that information.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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The glass shop I referred to has been in business for over 50 years. The information I shared came from there and the glass manufacturer. Maybe you didn't take the time to read that in my previous post.
I stand by what I posted and simply sharing the information straight from the source.
So I will take your advice with a grain of salt seeing how your reading comprehension is as low as your ability to make recommendations.
By the way I'm sure the OP appreciates your input on the post as it provided so much useful info but we have all read enough of your posts on here to know that useful info rarely comes from you anyways...
Sorry but I did read your snarky posts about a fool and their money being parted maybe you were speaking about yourself. Fact of the matter is you were incorrect sir. You just got bad info and ran with it without any type of validation which I will just leave that one alone lol. Love your attempt to pull me into a personal exchange--nice try. Some folks just have problems with dealing with facts.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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Safelite no longer makes glass. They stopped over a year ago, anything left with their logo is old stock. Yes their glass was poor quality’.
Ahhhhh Haaaaaa maybe that is a reason the 3 replacement windshields in the Jeep 2014 Wrangler last one done in 2016 were not as robust as the original. Who knows thing attract rocks being almost vertical compared to a normal windshield does not help!
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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I don't think it matters who makes the glass on those wranglers. A vertical piece has a hard time deflecting anything off it, things want to go through it. On the new wranglers you can opt for a stronger windshield called gorilla glass but we have not seen many people opt for it and the durability is still open for debate.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 09:30 AM
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I don't think it matters who makes the glass on those wranglers. A vertical piece has a hard time deflecting anything off it, things want to go through it. On the new wranglers you can opt for a stronger windshield called gorilla glass but we have not seen many people opt for it and the durability is still open for debate.
NOW that will be a game changer---maybe! Going to have to look into that one. Imagine it is going to be from a cost perspective significant. Wish that that Gorilla Glass windshields and maybe they will be expanded to other vehicles. Thanks for the info! Oilfield is ugly in SE NM....
 
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