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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 08:22 PM
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Yes another tire rating thread

Ok fellas. I feel stupid asking this so flame away...
I want 40” toyo’s but they only come in D rating.
The 37’s come in an E rating.
Trying to figure out the difference in weight. If I tow a 14k trailer with a SRW F350 will the 40’s in a D rating be over capacity? I’ve looked around trying to see if there’s a specific lbs rating for the different letter ratings but I have not found anything that gives an actual number.
I definetly need some clarification and hoping y’all can shed some light. Thanks so much!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 08:30 PM
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14k what kinda trailer and which motor. Whats the tire rated for lbs?


Lots of missing info.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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https://www.discounttire.com/learn/l...nge-load-index Explains Load ratings/Range
D 8 ply tire
E 10 ply tire

Load index # is how many LBS the tire can support.

You would need a 121 or better load index for that 14K trailer which is a E rated tire most likely.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
14k what kinda trailer and which motor. Whats the tire rated for lbs?


Lots of missing info.
14k dump trailer, 6.7 Powerstroke.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mwheue
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/l...nge-load-index Explains Load ratings/Range
D 8 ply tire
E 10 ply tire

Load index # is how many LBS the tire can support.

You would need a 121 or better load index for that 14K trailer which is a E rated tire most likely.
So that looks like 3200#’s. The tongue weight can’t exceed 1500#. So the rear wheel capacity would be roughly 6,400# but the tongue weight is only 1500. Surely I must be wrong.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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So that looks like 3200#’s. The tongue weight can’t exceed 1500#. So the rear wheel capacity would be roughly 6,400# but the tongue weight is only 1500. Surely I must be wrong.
6400 includes the weight of the rear of the truck also. So axle, suspension, bed, etc.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 09:53 PM
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What is the specific load rating of the tire. There is some cross over of total pounds per tire for those types of tires. Most E rated tires are 3800 to 4000 lbs. D rated are more like 3000 to 3200 lbs but it really depends on the make and model type and size of the specific tire.

An F350 diesel, with a GVW of 11,500, is going to be able to handle the trailer no problem, in all likelihood, you will be at the max of an e rated tire on the rear axle. Also, tire pressure ratings are important. Most D rated tires are max 65 psi. Good for your front axle which recommended pressure is 60 PSi on my F350 diesel. But the rear inflation is 80 PSI for max GVW.

i believe the rear tires will be the Achilles heal of this proposed setup. No �� here, but I would go down to a 37 true E rated tire, and a good one for the use of that dump trailer and other high GVW towing.

now add to it the lift required for a 40” tire. Sag and handling will be considerable in my humble opinion.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 10:01 PM
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I chose this particular tire for the Rating and Ply. I tow a large fifth wheel RV.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 10:04 PM
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Well if it meets or exceeds the GAWR on the white sticker on the door frame maybe its worth a try. Why think so much about it.
 
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Originally Posted by Ian123
6400 includes the weight of the rear of the truck also. So axle, suspension, bed, etc.
Ok thanks. So next question....
any idea what that weight is on these trucks?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2019 | 10:32 PM
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My CC LWB F350 weights 8500 lbs to 9000 lbs depending on toolbox and auxiliary fuel, has an 11,500 GVW.

those 40s will not do it for you. A 35” or even a 37” with as close to 4000 lb per tire rating is what is required.
 
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Ok thanks. So next question....
any idea what that weight is on these trucks?
Very loose estimate based on having weighed several different pickups over the years...5000 lbs front 3000 lbs rear
 
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The 40" Toyo will carry more weight than your truck is rated for. The load index is 130, which is 4,189 pounds per tire.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2019 | 08:18 AM
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On a CAT scale, mine weighed 4900 front, 3340 rear. This was full fuel, me (215 lbs), Lariat Value, CCSB 4x4, tailgate step, hitch and puck system.
 
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Find your tire size, ply rating, load index, and load vs inflation specs here:

https://www.toyotires.com/media/2125...s_20170203.pdf

Note that the “ply rating” rarely — if ever — corresponds to actual construction anymore. For example, the “10 ply rated ‘E’” tires on our truck are actually of eight ply construction: six in the tread, and two in the sidewalls.

Don’t get me wrong, as I’m not complainin’. IIRC, the last 10 ply E tires on our 2000 F250 were seven ply construction.

Actual construction details are described on the tire sidewalls.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer
 
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