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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Proper transmission mount PN/source needed


the trans mount on my '03 EX 4x4 is very "square/rectangle" shaped, whereas the replacements on-line (Summit, RockAuto, etc) and at local auto parts stores is more "trapezoidal". Has the part changed since 2003? should I be looking for F250/350 trans mounts instead?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 05:27 PM
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Tasca Parts is a good discount supplier for OEM stuff.

trans mount is part number F81Z-6068-AA

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...OC1kaWVzZWw%3D
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 07:01 PM
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Thanks for that. But looking at that part #, it shows as being for a 2WD drive train and shaped like this:


Looking around more, my hunch took me to look for the mount on an F350, which looks the same as the one on my EX:


On Tasca's site - https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...OC1kaWVzZWw%3D
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Tasca Parts is a good discount supplier for OEM stuff.

trans mount is part number F81Z-6068-AA =
F250/350 & Excursion 2WD 5.4L/6.8L/7.3L

autonationfordwhitebearlake.com (formerly Tousley Ford) is usually the cheapest as they sell at dealer net cost + 10%

Some dealers have an EZ to use online parts catalog, but you have to know exactly what you want and where to search.

I looked at Auto Nations catalog, found the info for this mount, but cannot find the info for the 4WD mount.

Edit: Y3CZ-6068-BA .. 6.8L 4WD Transmission Mount / Obsolete


 

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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 08:55 PM
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Whoops, not only was it 2wd but I linked the AA version which is without damper,
the original excursion 4x4 is the same 6068 part number With a BA version designator

in 2005 the prefix was changed from yc3z to 5c3z denoting the new ( internal engineering update ) number.

If you look up a 2003 f250 you will see this new number

the 5 instead of the y denotes it was redesigned in 2005 so a 2003 wouldn’t have that originally

the part number 6068 is the same

the suffix denotes it has been changed twice, Originally it would have been a AA ( like the non dampener unit I linked )

A 2003 f250 with damper is version BB and no reason I am aware that it will not work.

Yes ford part numbers can be confusing and they do updates constantly, however not all discountinued vehicles get updated numbers but since the f250 is still in production you can often find the number you need in the f250 listing.

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...wtdjgtZGllc2Vs
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Whoops, not only was it 2wd but I linked the AA version which is without damper,
the original excursion 4x4 is the same 6068 part number With a BA version designator

in 2005 the prefix was changed from yc3z to 5c3z denoting the new ( internal engineering update ) number.

If you look up a 2003 f250 you will see this new number

the 5 instead of the y denotes it was redesigned in 2005 so a 2003 wouldn’t have that originally

the part number 6068 is the same

the suffix denotes it has been changed twice, Originally it would have been a AA ( like the non dampener unit I linked )

A 2003 f250 with damper is version BB and no reason I am aware that it will not work.

Yes ford part numbers can be confusing and they do updates constantly, however not all discountinued vehicles get updated numbers but since the f250 is still in production you can often find the number you need in the f250 listing.

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...wtdjgtZGllc2Vs
Online Ford parts catalog lists YC3Z-6068-BA for 2003 Excursion 6.8L with 4WD .. There's no price because it's obsolete.

The 6068 basic part number has been used for decades for a gazillion different rear engine mounts.

Here's a couple of pics from the 1949/59 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog showing 6068 rear engine mounts.


 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 01:01 AM
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Yc3z

the “c” is the decade code indicating this 6068 part was first used in the 1960’s, The 3 is the year, So this mount was first used in 1963, in the ford bronco it was c3z6068-a So it has morphed from the A varianent to B then C all the way through the alphabet and then started on BA up to the excursion BB ,

The BB mount should be backwards compatible to BA as the new number could be as simple as a change in suppliers
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
YC3Z

the “c” is the decade code indicating this 6068 part was first used in the 1960’s, The 3 is the year, no it's isn't.

So this mount was first used in 1963, in the ford bronco it was c3z6068-a

So it has morphed from the A varient to B then C all the way through the alphabet and then started on BA up to the excursion BB
Absolutely wrong!

(sigh) I don't know where you got this info, but it's wrong.


1940's/90's: The 1st digit of the prefix decodes to the decade. But the newer part number prefixes like YC3Z cannot be decoded.

A = 1940's, B = 1950's, C = 1960's, D = 1970's, E = 1980's, F = 1990's.

1966/68 Bronco 289; 1966/72 Bronco 170; 1969/77 Bronco 302; 1973/74 Bronco 200: C6TZ-6068-D

Bronco introduced in 1966, so wouldn't have a 3 as the 2nd digit of the part number prefix for a specific Bronco part.

Go to Tasca's online parts catalog, see what part number you come up with. I used Auto Nations catalog, but all the online FoMoCo dealer parts catalogs are operated by trademotion.

Dealers can customize their specific catalog by changing the % of the discounts they offer.

I've been looking up Ford part numbers in catalogs for 57 years, so I know what I'm talking about.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 01:55 AM
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Jeeeezus, all I wanted was a freakin' part # for a plain old trans mount. Instead I learn that Ford is part of the inner circle of the Illuminati and that secrets and superstition abound. To make things even more confusing, I found that the mount on my EX has the two part #'s stamped on it - Yc35-6D091-ae (Green), F81A-6D091-BC (White) - while there's another mount out there 5C34-6D091-BC that is PURPLE!?!?!? Seriously? Bill, please, for God's sake, when I place an order, what # is needed to get the right part?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by brannman
Jeeeezus, all I wanted was a freakin' part # for a plain old trans mount. Instead I learn that Ford is part of the inner circle of the Illuminati and that secrets and superstition abound. To make things even more confusing, I found that the mount on my EX has the two part #'s stamped on it - Yc35-6D091-ae (Green), F81A-6D091-BC (White) - while there's another mount out there 5C34-6D091-BC that is PURPLE!?!?!?

Seriously? Bill, please, for God's sake, when I place an order, what # is needed to get the right part?
These are not part numbers, they are ID engineering numbers. These ID numbers can be crossed over to Ford part numbers by using the apropos Master Cross Reference Catalog.

No Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just casting or ID engineering numbers, when applicable.

The correct 2003 Excursion 6.8L 4WD rear mount is YC3Z-6068-BA .. It's obsolete, I was unable to find any.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by brannman
Seriously? Bill, please, for God's sake, when I place an order, what # is needed to get the right part?
Also see post #10.

There are two ways to get the part number. You can look it up yourself using a dealers online parts catalog, or you can go to a dealer, give them your VIN

When the VIN is typed into FoMoCo's computer system, the part number appears on the screen.

This isn't like the "old days" when parts guys had to look up the part numbers in catalogs by themselves. Having a good memory was another requirement.

Today, you don't even need to be a parts guy, what you need to be is...a computer certified tech.

Some of these 'new' parts guys are so dumb, the only way they can ID a Ford is because it says so on the vehicle somewhere!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 06:08 AM
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I see 3 choices

go with the parts guy obsolete bit and do without a trans mount

order the 5C3Z-6068-BB part number the guy who is wrong suggest.

or buy a used one on eBay or a junk yard.



 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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Ok, ok. I'll give in. My concern in this whole process is that when I punch in the vehicle info on-line the part systems (Tasca, Gaudin, Sunrise, or other FORD dealer website) they show the "proper mount" for my EX as the one for a 2wd drive train (trapezoidal lighter looking construction) as the 4x4 version (rectangular, beefier construction) is NLA/discontinued. If you'll indulge me, last question - is there a difference in the Green, White, Purple designations? rubber hardness/strength? Or just the color of the paint they had that day?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 02:27 PM
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Unknow to me but the hardness is as good a guess as any, look at the other measures taken to turn the F250 into something soccer moms would tolerate and it would make sense they would use a softer mount material,

almost certain the leaf spring bushings are softer, the Ex uses those dingleberry deals under the trans to isolate vibrations, lower ride height, ect....
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
go with the parts guy obsolete bit and do without a trans mount

order the 5C3Z-6068-BB part number the guy who is wrong suggest.

This is the WRONG part number for the OP's Excursion.

All you are doing is confusing people, because you do not know what you're talking about. BUTT OUT!

The correct number is YC3Z-6068-BA .. Look it up yourself.

ONLINE CATALOG: Select vehicle: 2003 Excursion 6.8L // Column left: Click on ENGINE // Click on Engine and Transmission mounting.
 
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