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Was just browsing the gram and found no limit has a triple turbo 6.7 that made 1300ish hp. I also know that Snyder Performance Engineering has a triple turbo 6.7 (1800hp) and Maryland Performance Diesel has some high horsepower trucks. I was wondering how many other people are really pushing these engines up into 1000+ hp or if anybody has more info on these trucks? I love that people exploring these engine limits hopefully pushing them to compete with those cummins.
You're best bet is to probably to stick with social media to see the high performance stuff. But check out the diesel performance section here. There's another shop in PA also. I'll think of it later.
The Cummins will always have a torque advantage because of the long stroke. But as RPM increases, the long stroke becomes a liability.
Fords 6.7 is capable of incredible amounts of power. The stock con rods got a bad rep early on but most of that was poor tuning. I'm well over
1000 hp on the stock rods with no failures. I won't get into details but lets just say don't bring on the fuel and timing too early. Instead of using
rpm in the torque/horsepower graphs, use piston speed instead and you will get a much more accurate picture.
The Cummins will always have a torque advantage because of the long stroke. But as RPM increases, the long stroke becomes a liability.
Fords 6.7 is capable of incredible amounts of power. The stock con rods got a bad rep early on but most of that was poor tuning. I'm well over
1000 hp on the stock rods with no failures. I won't get into details but lets just say don't bring on the fuel and timing too early. Instead of using
rpm in the torque/horsepower graphs, use piston speed instead and you will get a much more accurate picture.
Joe
Is that on spray or fuel only? I'm guessing your running a single also so the power comes on in higher rpms.
It's something I'd never do personally, but I LOVE when guys push the limits on these trucks, and learn the capabilities. Just need to have deep pockets $$$
The Cummins will always have a torque advantage because of the long stroke. But as RPM increases, the long stroke becomes a liability.
Fords 6.7 is capable of incredible amounts of power. The stock con rods got a bad rep early on but most of that was poor tuning. I'm well over
1000 hp on the stock rods with no failures. I won't get into details but lets just say don't bring on the fuel and timing too early. Instead of using
rpm in the torque/horsepower graphs, use piston speed instead and you will get a much more accurate picture.
Joe
Dude, you can't make a statement like that and NOT give us a few crumbs. C'mon Man!
It's something I'd never do personally, but I LOVE when guys push the limits on these trucks, and learn the capabilities. Just need to have deep pockets $$$
Not with my daily driver and first diesel truck. Plus my pockets aren't deep either. When I owned my 96, I wanted to transplant a 6BT. It never happened but now I'm about the Powerstrokes. Before I bought my current ride, I was going to with a Ram 3500. I'm glad I stuck with Ford. My 2 cents. I really love the OBS and would build one of those up which isn't cheap either, The Ford engines I mean. My 5.8 wasn't cheap or as cheap as a Chevy 350 would have been. Maybe transplant a 6.0 in the OBS or just buy a 05 to 07. Building up our V8s as opposed to the straight 6 Cummins engines are more expensive I'm sure. But if I became independently wealthy as I can't do all the work myself, , I'd want to have something totally different like 11 to 16 chassis, 6.7 6r140 with a F350CCSB body custom mounted on top with modern interior. Like something the Diesel Brothers would do. But I digress.
Some of the methods and procedures are proprietary, so that is as far as I ca go.
I used to worry about the rods, now I appreciate their design. The new rods that came out in 2017 are wider
but are made a lot cheaper. I question their overall strength. The old rods were designed by Mahle and the new
ones are made by AAM. That also concerns me some what.
No problem man. I understand. Not looking for details. But I'll assume compounds, bigger intake and bigger injectors. I probably am wrong but what do I know?? So I started looking for hipo 6.7s and found this one from SPE.
Some of the methods and procedures are proprietary, so that is as far as I ca go.
I used to worry about the rods, now I appreciate their design. The new rods that came out in 2017 are wider
but are made a lot cheaper. I question their overall strength. The old rods were designed by Mahle and the new
ones are made by AAM. That also concerns me some what.
Wearnt the new 2020 rods supposed to be forged steel vs powdered metal and they had more mass I believe.
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog/2020-ford-super-duty-6-7l-engine-specs
Here is something from SPE where they go over the new changes happening to the 6.7.
The new rods are pm. They are also a direct replacement (superseded by) for the old rod going back to mid 2016. As long as it uses the 35mm wrist pin. For that to work, the new and old rod
would have to weigh the same. The clincher is the new rod is $29 vs the old rod being $99. What does the price difference tell us? Something maybe. I'm not sure.
All of my information pertains to the 6.7 from 2016.5 thru 2019. 2020, I have no idea.
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