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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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V10 Excursion Idling Roughly

2000, 189k miles, new plugs and boots about a year ago, or ~15k miles ago.

Last weekend got some gas at the same place as usual. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday were unusually cold here in Texas, around 20deg, so I drove my other car.

Went to drive the Excursion yesterday and it was idling quite rough. Felt like it was shaking/juttering a couple times a second or so.

Any ideas on where to start looking? Feels like a misfire but it is odd that it would just start after freezing weather.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 07:49 AM
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Scan it. Mode $06.

​it's what I'm doing right now too.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 12:30 PM
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Thanks, just put a scanner on it and got code p0305. I'm not sure if I have Mode $06 on my torque app, but at least I know what cylinder it is now.

Given the plugs/boots are fairly new, I'm thinking that the freeze might have affected the coil pack? Guess I can swap coil packs and see if the code follows to test that.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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I just did the exact same thing, I thought it was bad gas. Turns out I had an intake gasket leak. Spark plug wells 7 and 8 were filled with antifreeze. My check engine light never came on, checked it anyways and coil 7 was reporting a misfire. Apparently my check engine light is not working.....

I ended up pulling the intake, cleaning everything, replacing the gaskets, thermostat, hoses, spark plugs and boots, coil 7, and flushing the coolant. Runs great now. I also added the O-rings to the boots, well worth the $7 for the added insurance that it may keep the coolant out of the wells next time.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 01:17 PM
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I just did the exact same thing, I thought it was bad gas. Turns out I had an intake gasket leak. Spark plug wells 7 and 8 were filled with antifreeze. My check engine light never came on, checked it anyways and coil 7 was reporting a misfire. Apparently my check engine light is not working.....

I ended up pulling the intake, cleaning everything, replacing the gaskets, thermostat, hoses, spark plugs and boots, coil 7, and flushing the coolant. Runs great now. I also added the O-rings to the boots, well worth the $7 for the added insurance that it may keep the coolant out of the wells next time.
the excursion wont set check engine for misfire, epa programming loop hole
 
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Today when running the truck, it is not stuttering in Drive like before. It stutters very very slightly in Park, but it has always done that. Once I drop into Drive it feels pretty smooth. Nevertheless I started some tests.

I pulled the COP on #5 and swapped it with #1. While the COP was on, I took a picture of #5. It didn't look too wet or anything, but it was very hard to tell.

With the COPs swapped, I unplugged the one on #1 and it started stumbling, so that COP was OK. No codes came up.

I went to take a look at the spark plug on #5, and discovered there was a damn screw on the top of it. You can barely see it in the picture because it is blurry. The spark plug was tight, so I didn't even bother taking it out. I just disposed of the screw.

I put the COP back on and it is still acting as normal. Stumbling/vibrating ever so slightly in Park, but feels good in Drive. I unplugged #5 and started it up, and it ran badly, so clearly it is not completely misfiring. I guess I will take it on a short drive and keep checking for a code coming back.

 
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How do the boots look?

Do you have a new coil pack you can replace it with? Try unplugging the injector for that cylinder?
 
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