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I just took the starter bolt to the hardware store to match it to an 8" bolt. I don't think reaching that top bolt is "EASY" though. Maybe if you're a circus acrobat.
I just took the starter bolt to the hardware store to match it to an 8" bolt. I don't think reaching that top bolt is "EASY" though. Maybe if you're a circus acrobat.
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Raymond, you are correct. I said 10mm, that was the only socket I found that fit the head of the bolts.
A 10mm 12pt.
I have mostly metric tools, since since 1981 I bought a Datsun Diesel PU, and then from 97 on...I have
a bunch of Mercedes Diesels from the 80`s time period. Still have the Datsun, and a Nissan Diesel PU.
Since I bought the Ford, I have been slowly accumulating SAE tools.
Charlie
A 10mm 12pt.
I have mostly metric tools, since since 1981 I bought a Datsun Diesel PU, and then from 97 on...I have
a bunch of Mercedes Diesels from the 80`s time period. Still have the Datsun, and a Nissan Diesel PU.
Since I bought the Ford, I have been slowly accumulating SAE tools.
Charlie
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From: Thornton CO
Alright everyone, I changed my batteries and the batteries weren't the problem. Same issue is happening. I tried twisting my fuel filter out and it wouldn't budge, daylight is almost out so I gave up and tried to crank it after I replaced my batteries. My cables are in decent condition I would say after a good cleaning. I .Starting to think jelled fuel could be the main issue. I doubt it's my starter since it's relatively new. How would I be able to fix the jello problem?
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How cold is it there in CO right now? It was in the 30s a week or 2 ago in OK and my truck would start right up with 8-10 seconds of manual GPs. Are your glowplugs in good condition? I use Lucas fuel treatment every time I put fuel in the truck and I've never had a gelling problem. Then again, it isn't very cold in OK. 
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How cold is it there in CO right now? It was in the 30s a week or 2 ago in OK and my truck would start right up with 8-10 seconds of manual GPs. Are your glowplugs in good condition? I use Lucas fuel treatment every time I put fuel in the truck and I've never had a gelling problem. Then again, it isn't very cold in OK.
My plugs should also be in good condition. As I said earlier, I crank it and then it slows down like it's dying. Would it be a possibility that I have gel in my fuel filter? It's been warming up but again it's going to snow. Fml 🌨️🌨️🌨️.
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How cold is it there in CO right now? It was in the 30s a week or 2 ago in OK and my truck would start right up with 8-10 seconds of manual GPs. Are your glowplugs in good condition? I use Lucas fuel treatment every time I put fuel in the truck and I've never had a gelling problem. Then again, it isn't very cold in OK.
Back on topic, I don't see how gelled fuel would cause it to crank fast then slow. Sounds like a possibility that the starters weak..either that or the batteries which you stated you tested.
I'd try disconnecting the glow plugs and giving it a sniff of ether and see if it starts and stays running to rule out fuel.
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From: Thornton CO
A little off topic but our zd-1's are 6 volt glow plugs with 12 volts running to them so they start faster. A 87 6.9 or 7.3 that uses the zd-9's will take a little longer as they're actually 12v sticks.
Back on topic, I don't see how gelled fuel would cause it to crank fast then slow. Sounds like a possibility that the starters weak..either that or the batteries which you stated you tested.
I'd try disconnecting the glow plugs and giving it a sniff of ether and see if it starts and stays running to rule out fuel.
Back on topic, I don't see how gelled fuel would cause it to crank fast then slow. Sounds like a possibility that the starters weak..either that or the batteries which you stated you tested.
I'd try disconnecting the glow plugs and giving it a sniff of ether and see if it starts and stays running to rule out fuel.
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Do you have another vehicle you could hook up with jumper cables or one of those battery chargers with engine start assist?
If it cranks over fine with the extra juice that would point to your connections or starter
Ether in itself isn't dangerous, it's the idiot behind most cans spraying too much. Just a wiff is all it takes
If it cranks over fine with the extra juice that would point to your connections or starter
Ether in itself isn't dangerous, it's the idiot behind most cans spraying too much. Just a wiff is all it takes
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From: Thornton CO
Do you have another vehicle you could hook up with jumper cables or one of those battery chargers with engine start assist?
If it cranks over fine with the extra juice that would point to your connections or starter
Ether in itself isn't dangerous, it's the idiot behind most cans spraying too much. Just a wiff is all it takes
If it cranks over fine with the extra juice that would point to your connections or starter
Ether in itself isn't dangerous, it's the idiot behind most cans spraying too much. Just a wiff is all it takes
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From: Edmond, OK
You mentioned earlier that your fuel filter was frozen pretty good on the filter housing. Did you ever get it removed to check the fuel level for air intrusion? Even if you don't replace the filter, filling it with ATF will clear out your injectors and IP once you get it started.
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You mentioned earlier that your fuel filter was frozen pretty good on the filter housing. Did you ever get it removed to check the fuel level for air intrusion? Even if you don't replace the filter, filling it with ATF will clear out your injectors and IP once you get it started.
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From: Thornton CO
Sadly it was I who tightened it 😦. I just have terrible luck when it comes to winter. I'm moving next year so I don't have to deal with it anymore.
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I just read through this thread again.
Are you close to 110V out let? If so grab a HF Heat Gun and play it on the filter and fuel lines for a few min to
thaw out things.
Then remove the Air Filter lid and element, shove the Heat gun down the intake for a minute or so, and she
should kick right over.
Be sure the wires are out of the way of moving parts. I let the gun run as I start the engine.
Charlie
Are you close to 110V out let? If so grab a HF Heat Gun and play it on the filter and fuel lines for a few min to
thaw out things.
Then remove the Air Filter lid and element, shove the Heat gun down the intake for a minute or so, and she
should kick right over.
Be sure the wires are out of the way of moving parts. I let the gun run as I start the engine.
Charlie