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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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Greetings, new to this forum and hope experienced members can provide me with the info I seek. Have 2, first production 1997 e-150 van with the 5.4 liter engine. In addition, as a reference, I have the Ford service manuals published by the Helms publishing company for these vans . Purchased these 2 factory service manuals from the Ford dealer when I purchased the vans brand new in March of 97'. On page # 502-02-02 and page 3, pictorial breakdowns for the 12 body mounts required with part numbers for each, are displayed within these 2 pages. The body mount[s] I seek are not obsolete based on my search, nor can I find any cross reference # that identifies these specific mounts. A total of 6 identical mounts are required of the 12 body mounts currently installed. Can anyone provide any info on part # 1000192, or it's equivalent, please? All aftermarket suppliers incorrectly provide a 2 piece assembly to replace the single absorber assembly. On the pages of the service manual mentioned, it is denoted under 'view b', pictorial # 2, designated as 'absorber assembly', # 100092. As mentioned, 6 of these specific body mounts are required. They are installed on e-150 and 250 vans for the duration of 20 plus years. Have not found them anywhere. Dorman tech department was equally puzzled with my inquiry and observed the part # they sold did not match the physical configuration of the mounts installed on my vans. Any help from knowledgeable forum members would be sincerely appreciated regarding this matter.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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Is this what you're looking for ? If not a picture would help.


https://www.carid.com/dorman/body-mo...CABEgKpofD_BwE

here are a few more, I can't picture what you're talking about because I'ver never seen a 1 piece body mount, every ford I've ever worked on it's always been a 2 piece.

https://www.1aauto.com/1997-ford-e15.../1997-1528-168
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 03:02 PM
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No, Mike, these are not the mounts I seek. I appreciate your sincere offer of help. These Dorman after market parts align with their own search engine for a 1997 e-150 van. As mentioned, the physical configuration of Dorman mounts and what is installed on the e-150 and e-250 vans during a 20 year plus spread are totally different from what Dorman offers. Spoke with the Dorman tech department by phone and they are stumped as well. If you had access to the Helms factory manuals I previously mentioned, you will observe the exact, one piece rubber mount I reference [1000192]. The mount rests between the upper and lower members of the C- shaped frame. The external steel body of the body mount contains the rubber insert, the rubber insert was poured or baked into the mount steel body; and therefore, all one unit. Only one bolt holds it to the frame[part # n807249-s100], inserted from the floor of the van down to a nut assembly that is welded into the body mount cap on the very bottom of the mount. The mount assembly resembles the shape of a horse racing track in miniature. The entire piece fits into a hole on the top of the frame, with the hole shaped like the racetrack configuration to accommodate the shape of the body mount. Have visited several salvage yards and these mounts are identical on the e-150 and e-250 vans inspected. Wish you had the Helms manual, all that I have mentioned will become apparently clear and understood. Thank you for your time, sir.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 03:14 PM
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Mike, go to this web site page and you will see an identical, exact pictorial breakdown of the pages in my Helm's manual that identify the body mounts on my van. Even though the site answers a question or two for a 1996 Chateau van, these are the identical mounts that are installed on both of my 1997 vans. The part #'s I have referenced are clearly indicated; and there are 6 of them that one can clearly see. These are the mounts I seek. justanswer.com/ford/3ygha-1996-ford-e-150-chateau-club-wagon-donuts.html
Hope this helps you to help me, can't find them anywhere, have spent at least 6 hours searching for them, always something new to learn and investigate. Man thanks, sir.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 09:27 PM
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Part number 1000192 was the same at least through 2002. But it would not surprise me at all if it is only sold as a complete assembly. When you find a source, please post up what you find. And if you come across anything which would allow me to do a 1" to 1 1/2" body lift, please also let us know.







 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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For me when I'm seeking something this specific to Ford's manufacture I contact a dealership of some sort (local, online) via telephone and have ready the last eight digits of the VIN. The least you'll come away with is part numbers for the various mounts you're seeking. With that info you can check their prices plus others who have them in stock. Sadly some parts are available only through a dealer.

I know dealerships get a bad name--and for good reason---but parts sales has become competitive and most are fully aware of that and make a half-assed attempt to get your business.

By all means if/when you discover any usable part numbers please post here---we might have the Moderators include it in the Van's tech folder.

HTH
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 01:42 PM
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Greetings HTH-----Good idea, and probably will be inevitable. Hope someone on this forum will be able to provide me with some info. Forum members have assisted me in the past and taught me new methods of approach, for which I am grateful. Surely I am not the only person who has sought out these specific body mounts.You are right, maybe Ford has an answer, alternate part numbers; and a premium price for the OEM parts. Before I spend 1K + on each van, I will seriously consider a method of rebuilding rubber body mounts with a form of polyurethane. Witnessed a guy using a product called 'reoflex 60' from a company called 'smooth on'. Though labor intensive,once the mounts are removed, they can be rebuilt with this product for a mere 15 bucks per mount. The smallest size portion of this product can be purchased for 30 bucks; and this would repair 2 mounts. At least there is some form of an option of last resort. Thanks.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 02:01 PM
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desmond53: To satisfy our curiosity, would you post up a picture of the mount you are inquiring about?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 02:37 PM
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Sure, Tim, will take a photo very soon. At the moment, the ground is wet from copious amounts of rain; and my garage is full of stuff, with 3 Pyranha kayaks included. Will also post any tangible results via your request as well.Thanks for your offer to help me! Very nice van you have set up for kayaking; similar to mine, but not as elaborate. It appears your have your van well equipped for camping in the forests and close to the whitewater rivers we crave, usually located in very remote areas. Have been a hard core, dedicated kayaker since 1977, and still paddling class 3-4 rivers. Have 2 friends in Reno that relocated there about 4 years ago, lucky couple, they have the North Fork of the American in their 'back yard', and a whitewater play spot on the Truckee in the middle of downtown. Heading back this Summer to the Madison and Gallatin rivers in SW Montana; and Idaho for the Middle Fork of the Payette and the North Fork as well. Take care, sir.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 02:46 PM
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desmond53 you are the man! I haven't put a kayak in the water since 2010. That rack set up served us well on a couple of multi-day trips down the MF Salmon out of Stanley with raft support and various parts of the Payette around Crouch and McCall. (That bladder outside of Nampa is unusual...) Best to you.

I am interested in your body mount replacements because I want a little more body height so I can easier access the injectors under the tunnel. So, please keep us informed what you do.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JWA
For me when I'm seeking something this specific to Ford's manufacture I contact a dealership of some sort (local, online) via telephone and have ready the last eight digits of the VIN. The least you'll come away with is part numbers for the various mounts you're seeking. With that info you can check their prices plus others who have them in stock. Sadly some parts are available only through a dealer.

I know dealerships get a bad name--and for good reason---but parts sales has become competitive and most are fully aware of that and make a half-assed attempt to get your business.

By all means if/when you discover any usable part numbers please post here---we might have the Moderators include it in the Van's tech folder.

HTH
Look at the pics in post #5. The ONLY part numbers listed are the standard aka hardware numbers. Everything else only has basic part numbers that are worthless, because there's no prefix and suffix.

Suggest the OP go to a dealer and get the complete part numbers. Normally I could help, but my microfiche viewer bulb burned out.

It's not EZ to find locally, so I'll probably have to order it. 25 bucks plus shipping.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 09:22 PM
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NumberDummy you are a hero on this forum! You have helped me in the past and I want you to help me in the future. Give me your email and I will send you $5 towards the microfiche bulb via friends send money on paypal.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 11:05 PM
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NumberDummy you are a hero on this forum! You have helped me in the past and I want you to help me in the future. Give me your email and I will send you $5 towards the microfiche bulb via friends send money on paypal.
I'm not poor, quite the contrary, so thanks for the offer, but I don't need your money. I'm just having a problem finding the bulb. At one time Staples carried it, but I've been to three, all are out.

I know I can get it online, but I'm stalling, hoping to find it locally.

 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Look at the pics in post #5. The ONLY part numbers listed are the standard aka hardware numbers. Everything else only has basic part numbers that are worthless, because there's no prefix and suffix.

Suggest the OP go to a dealer and get the complete part numbers. Normally I could help, but my microfiche viewer bulb burned out.
No argument there---for the exact part number including prefix and suffix the dealership has that info based on the VIN. At least that's my experience with my local dealership.

If I correctly understand numbers shown in drawings like above are "group numbers" that identify one aspect of a part: brakes, body, engine etc etc. The prefix ID's the year and model, suffix indicating various modifications of any one part.

My knowledge here is probably naive at best but it does help me understand most of Ford's parts drawings.

Also to add NumberDummy the offer to chip in for a new reader bulb is well placed, not intended as an insult or though you're "economically disadvantaged"---given the service you provide more than a few of us here on FTE would be willing to buy the bulb for you as a way to express appreciation.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 10:05 AM
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Tim, thank you for your offer to help the gentleman with his bulb acquisition. Sure would be nice to have him comb through his documents to find out more info. I do have the prefix numbers for the body mounts, two of them, but rarely used them during my initial search. The reason for this is they failed to provide tangible info as well. You can read my response to him in a short period. Will be on the lookout for your request of mount risers; as I believe in trying my very best to help myself first, before I ask it of others. Still searching; and when weather permits, will post the photo you requested. Glad you had the opportunity to experience the Middle Fork; a wild area and beautiful whitewater river locked in my memory banks.Yakked it @ 4.4 ft in late June of 88' with Canyons, Inc. out of McCall as well. Les Bechtel owned and operated one of the best rafting concessions there at the time, a first class operation. Weather and water level were perfect, ran it with a group of yakkers from Crossville, Tn and Nolan Whitesell, owner of Whitesell canoes. Nolan also nursed me down the North Fork of the Payette for the first time with some paddlers from California 2 days after we took off the Middle Fork..
 
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