LED Backup lights for BLIS
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True. ............
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Two questions that inquiring minds would like to know......
(1) If the OEM LED headlights were a standalone option and could be added to any trim level, how much would you guys be willing to pay for them and please, be realistic.
(2) Knowing the cost of replacement OEM LED headlights and if they were standard across every trim level, but there was an option to go with halogens for no charge or even a discount of $500.00 dollars, how many of you would opt for the halogens.
(1) If the OEM LED headlights were a standalone option and could be added to any trim level, how much would you guys be willing to pay for them and please, be realistic.
(2) Knowing the cost of replacement OEM LED headlights and if they were standard across every trim level, but there was an option to go with halogens for no charge or even a discount of $500.00 dollars, how many of you would opt for the halogens.
2) Knowing that they run about $1300 ea, I'd most likely take the $500 discount and opt for Halogens. It's not like they are candles in a reflective case.
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Two questions that inquiring minds would like to know......
(1) If the OEM LED headlights were a standalone option and could be added to any trim level, how much would you guys be willing to pay for them and please, be realistic.
(2) Knowing the cost of replacement OEM LED headlights and if they were standard across every trim level, but there was an option to go with halogens for no charge or even a discount of $500.00 dollars, how many of you would opt for the halogens.
(1) If the OEM LED headlights were a standalone option and could be added to any trim level, how much would you guys be willing to pay for them and please, be realistic.
(2) Knowing the cost of replacement OEM LED headlights and if they were standard across every trim level, but there was an option to go with halogens for no charge or even a discount of $500.00 dollars, how many of you would opt for the halogens.
(1) Nothing. Other than the "cool" factor, they have little to offer other than a ridiculous replacement price.
(2) I'll take the halogens even if they were a no down-charge option. Replacement headlamp bulbs are cheap.
The DOT standards for vehicle lighting limit the light output of DOT approved OEM headlamps regardless of how that light is created. In Europe they have laser excited phosphor headlamps that are far superior to what we are allowed. Don't hold your breath. It essentially comes down to lamp and reflector design that affects how much light our headlights emit and where it goes on the road ahead. Given well designed headlamps they're all about equal. And before someone starts explaining how they replaced their headlights with the latest and greatest nuclear powered projector beams that light up 10 miles of road ahead notice that I said DOT approved.
P.S. The reason the dealer had to replace both of my LED headlamp assemblies had nothing to do with the LED's. Both headlamp covers had developed hundreds of tiny cracks across the entire clear cover after only 18 months.
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Having had trucks with both halogen and now LED headlights, my answer would be:
(1) Nothing. Other than the "cool" factor, they have little to offer other than a ridiculous replacement price.
(2) I'll take the halogens even if they were a no down-charge option. Replacement headlamp bulbs are cheap.
The DOT standards for vehicle lighting limit the light output of DOT approved OEM headlamps regardless of how that light is created. In Europe they have laser excited phosphor headlamps that are far superior to what we are allowed. Don't hold your breath. It essentially comes down to lamp and reflector design that affects how much light our headlights emit and where it goes on the road ahead. Given well designed headlamps they're all about equal. And before someone starts explaining how they replaced their headlights with the latest and greatest nuclear powered projector beams that light up 10 miles of road ahead notice that I said DOT approved.
P.S. The reason the dealer had to replace both of my LED headlamp assemblies had nothing to do with the LED's. Both headlamp covers had developed hundreds of tiny cracks across the entire clear cover after only 18 months.
(1) Nothing. Other than the "cool" factor, they have little to offer other than a ridiculous replacement price.
(2) I'll take the halogens even if they were a no down-charge option. Replacement headlamp bulbs are cheap.
The DOT standards for vehicle lighting limit the light output of DOT approved OEM headlamps regardless of how that light is created. In Europe they have laser excited phosphor headlamps that are far superior to what we are allowed. Don't hold your breath. It essentially comes down to lamp and reflector design that affects how much light our headlights emit and where it goes on the road ahead. Given well designed headlamps they're all about equal. And before someone starts explaining how they replaced their headlights with the latest and greatest nuclear powered projector beams that light up 10 miles of road ahead notice that I said DOT approved.
P.S. The reason the dealer had to replace both of my LED headlamp assemblies had nothing to do with the LED's. Both headlamp covers had developed hundreds of tiny cracks across the entire clear cover after only 18 months.
So there must have been other features in the Lariat or the 502A package that you wanted.
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Well, I'm in an XLT and about the only things a Lariat has to offer that I would like is the auto dual zone HVAC, memory seats and the upgraded stereo. I'd still want the shifter on the steering column with the console.
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From: N. Texas
Having had trucks with both halogen and now LED headlights, my answer would be:
(1) Nothing. Other than the "cool" factor, they have little to offer other than a ridiculous replacement price.
(2) I'll take the halogens even if they were a no down-charge option. Replacement headlamp bulbs are cheap.
The DOT standards for vehicle lighting limit the light output of DOT approved OEM headlamps regardless of how that light is created. In Europe they have laser excited phosphor headlamps that are far superior to what we are allowed. Don't hold your breath. It essentially comes down to lamp and reflector design that affects how much light our headlights emit and where it goes on the road ahead. Given well designed headlamps they're all about equal. And before someone starts explaining how they replaced their headlights with the latest and greatest nuclear powered projector beams that light up 10 miles of road ahead notice that I said DOT approved.
P.S. The reason the dealer had to replace both of my LED headlamp assemblies had nothing to do with the LED's. Both headlamp covers had developed hundreds of tiny cracks across the entire clear cover after only 18 months.
(1) Nothing. Other than the "cool" factor, they have little to offer other than a ridiculous replacement price.
(2) I'll take the halogens even if they were a no down-charge option. Replacement headlamp bulbs are cheap.
The DOT standards for vehicle lighting limit the light output of DOT approved OEM headlamps regardless of how that light is created. In Europe they have laser excited phosphor headlamps that are far superior to what we are allowed. Don't hold your breath. It essentially comes down to lamp and reflector design that affects how much light our headlights emit and where it goes on the road ahead. Given well designed headlamps they're all about equal. And before someone starts explaining how they replaced their headlights with the latest and greatest nuclear powered projector beams that light up 10 miles of road ahead notice that I said DOT approved.
P.S. The reason the dealer had to replace both of my LED headlamp assemblies had nothing to do with the LED's. Both headlamp covers had developed hundreds of tiny cracks across the entire clear cover after only 18 months.
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As far as the stereo goes, you can always update/upgrade to SYNC 3 in your 2015 but as you know, it`s a pricey thing to do not to mention the APIM problems that so many, including my self are having. I`m still waiting on a replacement APIM that was ordered in October of 2018.
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Dual climate is nice but I can honestly say that it`s never been used in my Lariat and the Auto feature is really just set it and forget it. The same goes for the memory seats......set it once and forget it unless you have many people driving your truck.
As far as the stereo goes, you can always update/upgrade to SYNC 3 in your 2015 but as you know, it`s a pricey thing to do not to mention the APIM problems that so many, including my self are having. I`m still waiting on a replacement APIM that was ordered in October of 2018.
As far as the stereo goes, you can always update/upgrade to SYNC 3 in your 2015 but as you know, it`s a pricey thing to do not to mention the APIM problems that so many, including my self are having. I`m still waiting on a replacement APIM that was ordered in October of 2018.
I was basically just saying there really isn't much that would make me want to shell out an additional 5 - 10K or so on a Lariat. Just wish we could have more ala cart options.
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As for the AC it's mostly about the auto feature. Set it and forget it. Had it in my last truck. Memory seats are because when my wife drives it, people at the shop and people at the car wash always move the damn seat. Takes me forever to get it just right again. Stereo. I couldn't care less about STYNC 3. Wife's Edge has it and I try to turn it off when I'm driving. I find the screen very distracting.
I was basically just saying there really isn't much that would make me shell out an additional 5 - 10K or so on a Lariat. Just wish we could have more ala cart options.
I was basically just saying there really isn't much that would make me shell out an additional 5 - 10K or so on a Lariat. Just wish we could have more ala cart options.
LOL.....Man I hear you on having my seat moved. When I took my truck in for the APIM, either the tech or the service writer moved my seat and steering wheel and I swear it took me over a month to get it back to just the way I like it.
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YES!!!! Without the memory you get it close. But then you are constantly making small adjustments until you get it right again. Only to find you are running thru the car wash and the process starts all over.......
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Yep. About 18 or 20 other features in the 502A package that made it worth it to me. I'm certainly not rolling in money but I am at the stage in my life where if I want something, I'm willing to pay for it. Never seen a Brinks truck following a hearse.
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