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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 04:17 PM
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Sync 3 / Pandora Issue

Over the past couple of days I have been having an issue with controlling Pandora with my steering wheel controls while my phone is plugged into the USB port and using the Pandora application through Sync 3.

Not always, but often, as I use the steering wheel control to turn the volume down, it changes sources to Sirius radio. Thinking I was “fat fingering” the M to switch sources I initially dismissed it. I have been conscious of turning down the volume and am confident I’m not “fat fingering” the M.

The issue doesn’t occur when I use Pandora with the phone connected via Bluetooth.

Anyone else experience this type of issue?

Mike
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Justa02TJ
Over the past couple of days I have been having an issue with controlling Pandora with my steering wheel controls while my phone is plugged into the USB port and using the Pandora application through Sync 3.

Not always, but often, as I use the steering wheel control to turn the volume down, it changes sources to Sirius radio. Thinking I was “fat fingering” the M to switch sources I initially dismissed it. I have been conscious of turning down the volume and am confident I’m not “fat fingering” the M.

The issue doesn’t occur when I use Pandora with the phone connected via Bluetooth.

Anyone else experience this type of issue?

Mike


Have you tried using Pandora through Apple CarPlay or AA because that sounds like the beginning of an APIM problem which is a well know issue.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 06:42 PM
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Yes, CarPlay is enabled so I believe I am using it. Sync had not been updated since 7/2017. I will get that updated to see if that helps. If not then I’ll start documenting everytime there’s an issue. Glad to still have time on the warranty.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2019 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Justa02TJ
Yes, CarPlay is enabled so I believe I am using it. Sync had not been updated since 7/2017. I will get that updated to see if that helps. If not then I’ll start documenting everytime there’s an issue. Glad to still have time on the warranty.
Oh yes, you need to update the SYNC system.
Let us know if the update helps.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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Mine behaves erratically as well. It will often suddenly announce audio OVER the music "Pandora has stopped working. Would you like to restart Pandora?" But the wretched thing keeps right on playing, most of the time, sometimes with the display locked, sometimes not. Sometimes it locks up totally and wont work again until the truck power is cycled. I have tried Android Auto Play, and it is horrible, locks up regularly, sometimes would not start etc. Gave up and uninstalled it.

AFAIC, Sync3 is marginal at best. Its poorly designed (defaults to AM radio). It locks up regularly. It rarely and erratically will restart whatever was being played before vehicle shutdown, and that is seemingly driven by how long since shutdown. My wife has a Porsche Cayenne that cost new less than this truck, and it has none of these issues. Disappointing, Ford.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by alabamatoy
Mine behaves erratically as well. It will often suddenly announce audio OVER the music "Pandora has stopped working. Would you like to restart Pandora?" But the wretched thing keeps right on playing, most of the time, sometimes with the display locked, sometimes not. Sometimes it locks up totally and wont work again until the truck power is cycled. I have tried Android Auto Play, and it is horrible, locks up regularly, sometimes would not start etc. Gave up and uninstalled it.

AFAIC, Sync3 is marginal at best. Its poorly designed (defaults to AM radio). It locks up regularly. It rarely and erratically will restart whatever was being played before vehicle shutdown, and that is seemingly driven by how long since shutdown. My wife has a Porsche Cayenne that cost new less than this truck, and it has none of these issues. Disappointing, Ford.
Yes, I think you need a new APIM but you have to take it into a Ford dealer to confirm this.

Also, i`ve heard about Android Auto owners not being happy with the way it works whereas Apple CarPlay seems to be more polished and works much better.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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Yes, I think you need a new APIM but you have to take it into a Ford dealer to confirm this.
I fear the Dealership tinkering with my rig. I will probably just live with it.

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Also, i`ve heard about Android Auto owners not being happy with the way it works whereas Apple CarPlay seems to be more polished and works much better.
Same here. I really wish we could just host the doggone phone display and be done with it. Its a touch screen in the truck, why wouldnt this work? Then I could have any app on my phone displayed in the big truck center display. I dont understand why this is not a highly desirable and effective solution.

 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 12:03 PM
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Try reinstalling the app on your phone - it's entirely possible that the app is finicky and with the Sync3 it may not always play ball. Occasionally rebooting your phone is a good idea too. Did this to me a few times in my 19` and after replacing my phone (S9+ is fine in lake water and pools but not the ocean, lol) it's been flawless.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by D3thM3tal
Try reinstalling the app on your phone - it's entirely possible that the app is finicky and with the Sync3 it may not always play ball. Occasionally rebooting your phone is a good idea too.
BTDT, repeatedly. And yes, I restart the phone every few days. The phone is a Pixel, and Google regularly updates these things, far more often than Samsung/Verizon did with my previous phone, and most of these updates will ask you to restart the phone afterwards.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by alabamatoy
I fear the Dealership tinkering with my rig. I will probably just live with it.


Same here. I really wish we could just host the doggone phone display and be done with it. Its a touch screen in the truck, why wouldnt this work? Then I could have any app on my phone displayed in the big truck center display. I dont understand why this is not a highly desirable and effective solution.
The main reason that we cannot have just our phone on the dash display is because of liability/legal issues that the manufacturers don`t want to deal with hence the reason for interfaces like Apple CarPlay and AA.

Another reason is because no manufacturer wants to give 100 percent control of the dash/display to the aftermarket because they want to incorporate their own technology and voice control like SYNC. Yes, OEM voice control systems are not in the same class as the aftermarket but perhaps things will change in the future because some makes are already starting to use Google as original equipment.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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After a few months I think I have figured out the issue. Seems to only occur when my blue tooth is on and the phone is plugged into the USB port. I have been turning off blue tooth and only plugging in the phone using the Pandora app from Sync. No problems yet. Blue tooth on along with the phone plugged into the USB port running the app through Sync seems to confuse Sync...just my observations.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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If your phone recently updated to Android 9.0 that is most likely your issue. Google: android 9 and bluetooth issues. Multiple devices such as car radios, bluetooth head phones ect are having issues. Lots of the forums have guides how to resolve them. To change volume know you have to turn on dual mode in advanced bluetooth settings. Lots of people are having to delete their devices and them reinstall them. There are step by step guides for this. Android has made major changes to bluetooth you have to account for these changes to get bluetooth devices such as sync and android auto to work. If dual mode is not selected volume is solely controlled by the phone. Dual mode enables volume to be controlled by sync or phone with bluetooth connection.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2019 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wyldfire
Lots of people are having to delete their devices and them reinstall them.
I have had to do this at least twice since 9.0 update. Its not that hard to do, and it seems to cure the issues....but only temporarily. My latest issue is that the phone audio will not come through the truck radio, even though the radio acts like it is. Callers say they can hear me, but I cannot hear them. Gosub: Delete phone in radio, delete radio in phone, restart both, reconnect, Return.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by alabamatoy
I have had to do this at least twice since 9.0 update. Its not that hard to do, and it seems to cure the issues....but only temporarily. My latest issue is that the phone audio will not come through the truck radio, even though the radio acts like it is. Callers say they can hear me, but I cannot hear them. Gosub: Delete phone in radio, delete radio in phone, restart both, reconnect, Return.
Go into your Android Auto settings and have it turn off wireless while connected. Doing that made mine stable. It seems with 9 that searching for a wireless connection make bluetooth connections flakey.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2019 | 08:35 AM
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Also turning on dual mode in advanced bluetooth settings seems to help the phone better juggle multiple devices at the same time. Ie sync, your fitness watch, obde connector
 
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