377 amps but ??? Continuous?
Foamster, there is another member that ran a dedicated charge line for his trailer. He has a thread on it from three to six months back. As I recall he put a good amount of thought into the design and came up with a good solution for his situation.
If you run a 1/0 you can pull 200A+ all day. I have a 1/0 run to my bed, with a quick disconnect and 1/0 jumper to my slide in camper batteries. I have a 500a solenoid (triggered from an upfitter) to control the line (which also has plugs for remote jumper cables) and a 2500w (5000 surge) inverter running off two house batteries (supplies and supplemented by the truck alternator and batteries when the supply solenoid is shut). The inverter is wired to power the entire AC load of the camper.
When I start the truck, I have a 10 second timer wired to the 500A solenoid, so if I leave the upfitter in the “on” position, 10 seconds after starting the truck, I have full alternator power to the camper. This works with remote start as well.
I leave the inverter “on” in the camper all the time when traveling. I wired it with a 30A automatic transfer switch with shore power so when I plug in at night (if we have hookups) it auto switches over. If we are boondocking, I turn the inverter off once we are setup.
I run the fridge in AC mode all the time off the inverter (truck alternator) unless boondocking. In the winter months I have a plug in heater I run while going down the road to keep the dogs (and tanks) warm. (No propane use too). In the summer I run the roof A/C until at full blast going down the road. In the morning if boondocking, I remote start the truck and can run the microwave (or A/C) from the alternator. We had one ridiculously hot night boondocking where I let the truck idle for about 4 hours with A/C blasting in the camper until it cooled off enough outside to shut it down and open windows. The truck is so quiet at idle (17 F450 6.7) that I’m not worried about idle noise and you can’t really hear it past 30 ft away.
When running the A/C and fridge, the 2500w inverter is near maxed out, supplying about 20A AC at 120V, which pulls about 220-240A DC (assuming 10% inverter losses). I have started the truck in the early morning at a campsite and turned the truck off 14 hours and three fuel stops later with the A/C running the entire time keeping the dogs cool. It does this all day every day when we are out and never blinks. My truck reads 14.4-14.7 volts with both the A/C and fridge running. I don’t carry a generator (or have one in my camper) because I simply don’t need it. The truck alternator can supply as much power as a 3kw generator (and still run the truck)
Many next camper (or electrical rebuild) will get a 4000w inverter and even heavier cables, which should allow A/C, microwave (which is a short duration high current load), and fridge all at the same time.
So, in short, YES, my dual alts run over 200A load (plus actual truck draw) all day every day even in 100+ deg heat.
I'll be setting up 4/0 connections (I already have the IP6 outlets for the service body) for lifepo4 battery charging and currently looking to put in a 12/48 converter since my bank will be 48v and the distance between source and bank is pretty far for 12v. Would like to pick your brain on a few items once I can send PMs.
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I'll be setting up 4/0 connections (I already have the IP6 outlets for the service body) for lifepo4 battery charging and currently looking to put in a 12/48 converter since my bank will be 48v and the distance between source and bank is pretty far for 12v. Would like to pick your brain on a few items once I can send PMs.
Yes, I should have a fuse or ckt breaker close to the battery. It’s on my mod list.
If you run a 1/0 you can pull 200A+ all day. I have a 1/0 run to my bed, with a quick disconnect and 1/0 jumper to my slide in camper batteries. I have a 500a solenoid (triggered from an upfitter) to control the line (which also has plugs for remote jumper cables) and a 2500w (5000 surge) inverter running off two house batteries (supplies and supplemented by the truck alternator and batteries when the supply solenoid is shut). The inverter is wired to power the entire AC load of the camper.
When I start the truck, I have a 10 second timer wired to the 500A solenoid, so if I leave the upfitter in the “on” position, 10 seconds after starting the truck, I have full alternator power to the camper. This works with remote start as well.
I leave the inverter “on” in the camper all the time when traveling. I wired it with a 30A automatic transfer switch with shore power so when I plug in at night (if we have hookups) it auto switches over. If we are boondocking, I turn the inverter off once we are setup.
I run the fridge in AC mode all the time off the inverter (truck alternator) unless boondocking. In the winter months I have a plug in heater I run while going down the road to keep the dogs (and tanks) warm. (No propane use too). In the summer I run the roof A/C until at full blast going down the road. In the morning if boondocking, I remote start the truck and can run the microwave (or A/C) from the alternator. We had one ridiculously hot night boondocking where I let the truck idle for about 4 hours with A/C blasting in the camper until it cooled off enough outside to shut it down and open windows. The truck is so quiet at idle (17 F450 6.7) that I’m not worried about idle noise and you can’t really hear it past 30 ft away.
When running the A/C and fridge, the 2500w inverter is near maxed out, supplying about 20A AC at 120V, which pulls about 220-240A DC (assuming 10% inverter losses). I have started the truck in the early morning at a campsite and turned the truck off 14 hours and three fuel stops later with the A/C running the entire time keeping the dogs cool. It does this all day every day when we are out and never blinks. My truck reads 14.4-14.7 volts with both the A/C and fridge running. I don’t carry a generator (or have one in my camper) because I simply don’t need it. The truck alternator can supply as much power as a 3kw generator (and still run the truck)
Many next camper (or electrical rebuild) will get a 4000w inverter and even heavier cables, which should allow A/C, microwave (which is a short duration high current load), and fridge all at the same time.
So, in short, YES, my dual alts run over 200A load (plus actual truck draw) all day every day even in 100+ deg heat.
The part I struggle with is running a 6.7 powerstroke engine to feed an inverter which then powers something that a portable generator could run? I would much rather drag my 2400w Yamaha genny along and run that when I am boondocking and need AC power, than run my 6.7 powerstroke to serve the same purpose. Essentially, when the truck is parked, put the wear and tear on the genny versus burning diesel in the 6.7 and loading up the DPF will lots of idling.
i like this setup of the quick connects to the box of the truck and to the front for winches, battery packs. I think the key being how well it is wired and wire loom protected with braided material protecting against any chaffing. A hot wire of that capacity would be a dangerous thing if ever damaged and grounded to something. In line fuses, relays all very well done.
the dual alternators set up again, do not run continuously, or at the same time, they alternate based on load and heat. For the above wired setup, a monster 270XP would be a necessary investment. I ran a Leece Neville(Prestolite) 230 amp on my 2005 diesel. It produced nominal 170-180 amps on start up cold at idle, 200 at high idle of 1250 rpm. Never put the meter on it at higher rpm, but sure had good batteries all the time after upgrading from a 140 amp unit. I started this truck cold for 8 winters, short trips, always 13.2 volts fully charged, -20 to -40 C every winter.
FWIW my 450 has the extra heavy duty dual alternators and the snow plow prep package.
Yes, I should have a fuse or ckt breaker close to the battery. It’s on my mod list.













