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Forensics of my 2003 Ford Motorcraft Remanufactured Motor

 
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It’s a great video Jack. Appreciate all the effort you’ve put into all of your videos.
 
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Thank you. It’s an interesting learning experience and still a lot more.
 
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Excellent video. Wow you really got screwed. I don't know how you keep such a calm bearing on the voice-over. If that was me it would be 40 minutes of me yelling "WT actual F!?" while the images panned by, and I feel that would still be a very accurate narration.
 
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Ford Monkeys really CHIMP'D this motor up !!!!

Quality Isn't Job 1 @ Ford any more ---- that's why its stock has been pummeled --- falling the past few years.......
 
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Donald,

Revenge is a dish best served cold.


There have been so many times I just had to walk away from doing any work on that motor. I'm there right now with the crankshaft. Haven't touched it for four days and I was ready to drop the heads on. It really has been frustrating.

But when doing these videos I got into my workplace report mode. The last part of that voice over was hard.
 
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:25 PM
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Holy sheet! Incredible video...I needed to go to sleep a while ago but I couldn’t stop watching😳
 
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ImI just curious Jack, Have you called corporate or contacted Ford at all? I never heard back on my oil filter problem but I think they would be interested in seeing the sloppy work by the vendor that rebuild this mill. As you know the internet can be a wonderful thing. And yes revenge IS best served cold.
 
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No Bill. I'm smarting from this expense, but the only response I conceive from Ford corporate would be "Well, you got 8 years and 70k out of it and it's past warranty". At the time of purchase I was expecting at this price a 200-250k life motor, which is why I went for the replacement. At 1/3 the cost it was, this would to me still be a poor value. A crappy eBay motor.

As I've stated, I've had to keep distance from working on it over and over for my own sanity. It's why I did some of the videos like the Racor filters, last few electrical, and several times almost had Mazza drag it down the block just so I wouldn't have to look at it.
 
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No Bill. I'm smarting from this expense, but the only response I conceive from Ford corporate would be "Well, you got 8 years and 70k out of it and it's past warranty". At the time of purchase I was expecting at this price a 200-250k life motor, which is why I went for the replacement. At 1/3 the cost it was, this would to me still be a poor value. A crappy eBay motor.

As I've stated, I've had to keep distance from working on it over and over for my own sanity. It's why I did some of the videos like the Racor filters, last few electrical, and several times almost had Mazza drag it down the block just so I wouldn't have to look at it.

Jack -- 70K out of ANY motor is plain awful.............the 6.0L with the right work can easily be a 500K -1M mile engine..............provided the coolant filter (oil cooler) gets changed out periodically and the right lubricants and ELCs are used...............
 
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During the design phase of the P131 launch the targets were 250k chassis, 350k for the 6.0L from what I remember. The previous 7.3L had a target of 500k. 70k is not acceptable for me, I'm just saying that would be the corporate response.

I agree that with good maintenance you can take products past the average design intent. Our MDX is at 235k now and running well. I always thought if I got less then 200k out of a vehicle since the late 80's I did something poorly.
 
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During the design phase of the P131 launch the targets were 250k chassis, 350k for the 6.0L from what I remember. The previous 7.3L had a target of 500k. 70k is not acceptable for me, I'm just saying that would be the corporate response.

I agree that with good maintenance you can take products past the average design intent. Our MDX is at 235k now and running well. I always thought if I got less then 200k out of a vehicle since the late 80's I did something poorly.

Social media can be one hell of a motivator. When you are finalized with your videos I would tag them on any social media platforms you a member of. You may get some relief, and it's not much work to tag them and at least get their attention.
 
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Launched 18 hours ago publicly. Most are not watching it to the end. 15 minutes is about most peoples tolerance for a YouTube video from things I've read. Video is twice that. But it has a higher response then most of my work. I'm fine on the traction, I just don't want people to make the same mistake.





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Do you need a crank?
 
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I agree Jack. I must have brain farted the FB comment, I was thinking You Tube. I do know where you can get a 3406 Cat, cheap, to put in it. LOL.
 
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Do you need a crank?
I'm debating that right now, Bill. I've never in my life run into an issue where journals were mis-ground, or maybe they were but I never had the need of checking for that. My first hand experience of watching the process decades ago was the journal was indexed off itself, then ground undersize and true. I'm not sure how other then punching in on a CNC grinder you would correct the situation.

But the other situation as someone else has noted, how critical is this or common? This motor wasn't as smooth as the OE motor, but that may have been due to the connecting rod bearing rather than an imbalance created by the amount of journal offset. It's a more questions than answers situation with one 6.0 under my belt. And I'm already expending way more money into this motor then I ever thought of. So I'm getting lost in the cost/benefit analysis with a rusting truck.
 

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