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Old 02-07-2019, 07:30 AM
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Interesting points there. I am wondering is the 7.3 motor, since it will be used all the way up to F750 platform, will drive more like a fleet truck vs a personal daily driver/ occasional towing and hauling rig. I also wonder how the 7.3 and 10 speed will handle snow plowing which I will be doing a lot of. The constant shifts back and forth and motor being worked non stop for sometimes days and how it will handle being able to stay cool with a big plow on the front.
 
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Interesting points there. I am wondering is the 7.3 motor, since it will be used all the way up to F750 platform, will drive more like a fleet truck vs a personal daily driver/ occasional towing and hauling rig. I also wonder how the 7.3 and 10 speed will handle snow plowing which I will be doing a lot of. The constant shifts back and forth and motor being worked non stop for sometimes days and how it will handle being able to stay cool with a big plow on the front.
Watch the videos. This combo will be nothing like a fleet rig, and cooling across the line was a big commitment for 2020. They stress the cooling for the 7.3L. If cooling hadn’t been a deal-breaking issue with the other engines, this one certainly won’t.
 
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Or they'll tune in the price of the upgrade. My guess is the cost will be at least 5k for that engine.
Rumor I heard today is $1,400 upgrade over 6.2 from an insider at Ford.
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:22 AM
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Rumor I heard today is $1,400 upgrade over 6.2 from an insider at Ford.
The Ecoboost is $1,600 on an F150 Lariat. I’d take no exception to $1,400 for the 7.3L, but I’m betting that number is low... especially if it closes a good portion of the gap to the $9,200 6.7L. Time will tell.
 
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Power with “decent” fuel economy requires turbos. I’d like to buy a large displacement engine with twin turbos making big torque numbers and decent HP.

Personally, I don’t care about MPGs. If I did, I’d probably be driving a Tacoma. My SD is a toy/toy hauler. Our 2018 Land Cruiser does about the same MPG than the F250. I understand how someone working a truck would focus on lowering operating costs through MPG improvements.
Everyone is concerned with MPG's. It just comes down to what is the lowest number we will accept. No one would want 1 mpg, nor 2. But maybe 8 or 9 could be the turning point. For me the lowest number is 13 non towing. Your opinion may vary
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:35 AM
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Rumor I heard today is $1,400 upgrade over 6.2 from an insider at Ford.
If that turns out to be correct, I can't imagine any individual not going for the 7.3. Fleet vehicles are another matter.
 
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Obviously this would be the ultimate solution and will never happen. Canibalizes the diesel sales. To do it aftermarket, would require tuning to alter fuel control algorithms as the 6.2 is a DI motor? I thought the new 7.3 gasser is a DI also?
No it is not, if all posters on this thread would watch the interview with the Ford 7.3 Project Engineer half of these posts would not be made as the questions and assumptions are answered.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-engineer.html
 
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All this reminds me of the MId 2000 Silverado days, You had the 6.0 Gas 8.1 Gas and the Duramax. 80% of the gas trucks were still the 6.0.. Why didn't everybody jump on the larger gasser with the Allison....
 
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All this reminds me of the MId 2000 Silverado days, You had the 6.0 Gas 8.1 Gas and the Duramax. 80% of the gas trucks were still the 6.0.. Why didn't everybody jump on the larger gasser with the Allison....
Simplest answer is the majority of truck buyers simply don’t care. I know quite a few people who buy on brand, price, and fuel mileage in that order. Telling some of these guys to spend extra for a motor that will use the same, or more fuel, is pissing in the wind.
 
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Originally Posted by RandyinTN
Everyone is concerned with MPG's. It just comes down to what is the lowest number we will accept. No one would want 1 mpg, nor 2. But maybe 8 or 9 could be the turning point. For me the lowest number is 13 non towing. Your opinion may vary
I agree, there will be a fuel mileage equation to the popularity of the 7.3. If it is close to the 6.2 (I've averaged 14 through 10K with towing and plowing my driveway etc.) it will be a hit. If it gets 7-8 mpg it will not imho. Gas prices are very low right now so that helps, but if they hit 4 bucks a gallon that will hurt sales of gassers, especially those getting less than 10 mpg..
 
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Originally Posted by Mkos1980
All this reminds me of the MId 2000 Silverado days, You had the 6.0 Gas 8.1 Gas and the Duramax. 80% of the gas trucks were still the 6.0.. Why didn't everybody jump on the larger gasser with the Allison....
Really a good point (if indeed you are correct with your figure). However, I do think the 7.3 will up the 8.1 in fuel efficiency AND when coupled with the 10 speed trans, it could very well land the new engine into the acceptable fuel economy range for those buyers on the fence. So, going by your 80% figure, I'll put my prediction in somewhat lower at 60% ford the new Ford duo.
 
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the 6.2 is NOT DI, as is the new 7.3. the new chevy 6.6 has DI with 401/464 and a 6 speed trans
 
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Really a good point (if indeed you are correct with your figure). However, I do think the 7.3 will up the 8.1 in fuel efficiency AND when coupled with the 10 speed trans, it could very well land the new engine into the acceptable fuel economy range for those buyers on the fence. So, going by your 80% figure, I'll put my prediction in somewhat lower at 60% ford the new Ford duo.
When I was searching for my 06 2500 HD I didn't even think about the 8.1 at the time. I liked my LT3 Package, towed my trailer well and that was that. Bought it. Zero regrets. I will have my 6.0 and love it. I got my specs off of the Silverado boards and from Car and Driver. Although there is a 5% difference. Numbers for both were 300/360 for the 6.0 while the 8.1 was 340/455 Mileage claims were minimal around 1-2 MPG difference. The 8.1 was making north of 400TQ at only 2600 RPMs too with peaking just over 4K

 
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Does anyone think the new 10 speed will have start and stop like the F150? That might be the difference in MPG to the 6.2L motor. Plus people like me ordered the 6.2 with 4:30 gears. Maybe we could get the same performance with 3:73 with the bigger motor..
It will not have start/stop on it.

Originally Posted by llmflyfisher
Obviously this would be the ultimate solution and will never happen. Canibalizes the diesel sales. To do it aftermarket, would require tuning to alter fuel control algorithms as the 6.2 is a DI motor? I thought the new 7.3 gasser is a DI also?
The 6.2L is not DI, and the 7.3L is port injected.
 
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Originally Posted by Blwnsmoke
Rumor I heard today is $1,400 upgrade over 6.2 from an insider at Ford.
I am predicting that the upcharge for the new 7.3l engine will be close to 6.7l territory, around $7-8,000.
 


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