Electric F-150 coming... - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Notices
2015+ F150 Discuss the 2015 Ford F150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Electric F-150 coming...

 
  #1  
Old 01-18-2019, 06:45 PM
Johnny Mayday's Avatar
Johnny Mayday
Johnny Mayday is offline
FTE Town Crier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 658
Johnny Mayday has a good reputation on FTE.Johnny Mayday has a good reputation on FTE.
Electric F-150 coming...

So there aren't really any details on this yet, but according to a Ford exec, it's going to happen. So what do you think about an electric F-150? Personally, I think the first uses for these will be for fleets. I'm thinking universities, local governments, maybe even parks, where the vehicles return to a central place at night. That would make charging them easy, and vehicles like that would have a relatively small range of operation, so it could make sense. Plus, electric motors require less upkeep than gas ones, but I imagine they'd have to see service for a while to account for the additional cost up front. What do you think about an electric F-150? Do you think Ford will actually sell any to regular people?
 
  #2  
Old 01-18-2019, 07:16 PM
jr105
jr105 is online now
Senior User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Groton, MA
Posts: 431
jr105 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Wouldn't work for me, but I can see some others buying them, especially if they can get the charge time down.
 
  #3  
Old 01-18-2019, 08:23 PM
onug's Avatar
onug
onug is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,324
onug is a name known to allonug is a name known to allonug is a name known to allonug is a name known to allonug is a name known to allonug is a name known to all
I’m fairly curious, but not holding my breath for either the hybrid or all-electric F-150. I’ve already told my dealer to call me the second the hybrid arrives. Infrastructure is a major problem with an all-electric vehicle and when it comes to trucks, it’s needed even more. The longer ranges being promised by some of the all-electric truck platforms coming to market in the next few years is exciting, but it still won’t give me the range I need to tow my trailer into the mountains (and back).
 
  #4  
Old 01-19-2019, 03:09 AM
Wiggums's Avatar
Wiggums
Wiggums is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,006
Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.
Hybrid would appeal to me in many ways since we've been planning on expanding our operations in Mexico and the border is an absolute nightmare. Stop for 3 minutes, move 12 feet ahead, then repeat. The auto start stop starter would wear out much faster that way! That was why I didn't buy a new one this year.
 
  #5  
Old 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
alloro
alloro is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 0,0,1
Posts: 15,365
alloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud ofalloro has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by onug View Post
The longer ranges being promised by some of the all-electric truck platforms coming to market in the next few years is exciting
I agree, with the larger battery option they're boasting around a 400 mile range. I'm sure it's more like 300-350 in the real world, but even that is good for an entire day for most people. I don't think I'd do any long distance towing, but for local use or even contractors it's very appealing.
 
  #6  
Old 01-19-2019, 06:20 PM
diesel_dan's Avatar
diesel_dan
diesel_dan is offline
FTE Addict
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Foothills, CA
Posts: 5,367
diesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud ofdiesel_dan has much to be proud of
I think it would be an answer to a question nobody is asking. GM discontinued their Volt - it was initially was to be a plug-in only and then they made it Hybrid. Some people just think Electricity just "comes" out of the wall, and they are being so "green" with an electric or hybrid car... Need to realize there is a Total Carbon Footprint cost, and unless we start damming up more rivers (unlikely), it ain't gonna' be Solar that is the break-through in power generation/delivery.

Keep your heavy batts - I'll take the payload capacity thanks very much!

I think FORD should be posting these Q's on our and other enthusiast forums, before they drop a dime on the idea... And where is that Achates Engine these days?????!

Scott
 
  #7  
Old 01-19-2019, 06:25 PM
ford390gashog's Avatar
ford390gashog
ford390gashog is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brentwood,CA
Posts: 17,281
ford390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Wiggums View Post
Hybrid would appeal to me in many ways since we've been planning on expanding our operations in Mexico and the border is an absolute nightmare. Stop for 3 minutes, move 12 feet ahead, then repeat. The auto start stop starter would wear out much faster that way! That was why I didn't buy a new one this year.

When are they going to put in EV charging stations that allow you to pull in with a trailer? That's about the only way I would consider one.
 
  #8  
Old 01-20-2019, 01:19 AM
Wiggums's Avatar
Wiggums
Wiggums is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,006
Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.Wiggums has a good reputation on FTE.
Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
When are they going to put in EV charging stations that allow you to pull in with a trailer? That's about the only way I would consider one.
All-electric cars are out of the question for me. I'm not going to wait 30 minutes. And if you do get stranded, are there charging tow trucks? I only like the hybrid because the engine is not always running when I'm at the border. The stop and go traffic is insane. I'm not a tree-hugger, it's just the wear and tear I'm looking at.
 
  #9  
Old 01-20-2019, 04:46 PM
Tim Young's Avatar
Tim Young
Tim Young is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Central Washington
Posts: 6,577
Tim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputation
I kind of like the idea, but I live in the hills and drive in the hills. I'm going to have to stick with deno fuel for a PU.
 
  #10  
Old 01-20-2019, 08:43 PM
Black Ford XLT's Avatar
Black Ford XLT
Black Ford XLT is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Swansea SC
Posts: 1,157
Black Ford XLT is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Things are changing -Harley Davidson is also is building an All Electric Motorcycle.TR
 
  #11  
Old 01-21-2019, 02:50 AM
ford390gashog's Avatar
ford390gashog
ford390gashog is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Brentwood,CA
Posts: 17,281
ford390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud offord390gashog has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Wiggums View Post
All-electric cars are out of the question for me. I'm not going to wait 30 minutes. And if you do get stranded, are there charging tow trucks? I only like the hybrid because the engine is not always running when I'm at the border. The stop and go traffic is insane. I'm not a tree-hugger, it's just the wear and tear I'm looking at.
Yeah quite a few EV jump start trucks running the metro areas these days. Pretty funny because they have diesel powered generators to jump the eco conscious EV cars. I see them frequently in the bay area.
 
  #12  
Old 01-21-2019, 06:56 PM
Johnny Mayday's Avatar
Johnny Mayday
Johnny Mayday is offline
FTE Town Crier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 658
Johnny Mayday has a good reputation on FTE.Johnny Mayday has a good reputation on FTE.
Originally Posted by Black Ford XLT View Post
Things are changing -Harley Davidson is also is building an All Electric Motorcycle.TR
I actually rode the prototype for this bike, and it was cool! That said, it's going to cost 30k, which is just ridiculous. So I don't see a lot of folks green or otherwise lining up to get one...
 
  #13  
Old 01-21-2019, 07:07 PM
Tim Young's Avatar
Tim Young
Tim Young is online now
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Central Washington
Posts: 6,577
Tim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputationTim Young has a superb reputation
I think an electric trials bike would be fun!
 
  #14  
Old 01-22-2019, 09:56 AM
triniexr
triniexr is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 278
triniexr is starting off with a positive reputation.
Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
I think it would be an answer to a question nobody is asking. GM discontinued their Volt - it was initially was to be a plug-in only and then they made it Hybrid. Some people just think Electricity just "comes" out of the wall, and they are being so "green" with an electric or hybrid car... Need to realize there is a Total Carbon Footprint cost, and unless we start damming up more rivers (unlikely), it ain't gonna' be Solar that is the break-through in power generation/delivery.

Keep your heavy batts - I'll take the payload capacity thanks very much!

I think FORD should be posting these Q's on our and other enthusiast forums, before they drop a dime on the idea... And where is that Achates Engine these days?????!

Scott
Also those batteries are not recyclable. All these batteries are going to sit there and pile up with no way of disposing them.
 
  #15  
Old 01-22-2019, 11:48 AM
Pocket
Pocket is online now
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Parker, CO
Posts: 9,251
Pocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputationPocket has a superb reputation
Just an FYI on a few things:

Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
I think it would be an answer to a question nobody is asking. GM discontinued their Volt - it was initially was to be a plug-in only and then they made it Hybrid.
The Volt was never designed as a plug-in only. That was an early pre-release media rumor that was never true. The Volt was discontinued because there are competitors out there with superior products, and sales of the Volt suffered as a result.

GM does have an all-electric Bolt that is currently in production. Furthermore, GM is going to build all-electric Cadillac's to take on Tesla. So no, GM isn't abandoning the all-electric vehicle, they are embracing it as is other auto-makers.

Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
Some people just think Electricity just "comes" out of the wall, and they are being so "green" with an electric or hybrid car... Need to realize there is a Total Carbon Footprint cost, and unless we start damming up more rivers (unlikely), it ain't gonna' be Solar that is the break-through in power generation/delivery.
An all-electric vehicle vs traditional internal combustion..... an EV will always pollute less. Why? Energy produced in mass volume, such as an electric grid, is far more efficient than producing energy for single use, such as an internal combustion engine. So yes it's true that EV's aren't entirely "green", but they are a much better alternative than the traditional internal combustion engine when it comes to pollution and efficient production of energy required to move the vehicle down the highway.

Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
Keep your heavy batts - I'll take the payload capacity thanks very much!
Take into consideration the type of engine required to perform equally to an electric motor.... basically a fairly powerful supercharged/turbocharged V8 (assuming gas engine). Add in the transmission, fuel tank, etc. Now take a battery pack and electric motors and compare side-by-side. There's less weight difference then you might assume.

Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
I think FORD should be posting these Q's on our and other enthusiast forums, before they drop a dime on the idea...
Ford doesn't have to be on a forum and ask questions. Ford, like all other auto-makers, is paying attention to how Tesla has decimated the competition of luxury sedans, and they did it with severely handcuffed production capabilities. With the popularity of the Tesla Model 3 as a less expensive option, you can bet auto-makers are scrambling to compete in the market.

Tesla's disadvantage is they can't build them fast enough. If given the production capabilities of companies like Ford or GM, Tesla would be far larger than they are now.

Originally Posted by diesel_dan View Post
And where is that Achates Engine these days?????!
I doubt they will make it into mass production. Internal combustion engines, even designs like Achates, will lose popularity quickly as electric takes over.

Originally Posted by triniexr View Post
Also those batteries are not recyclable. All these batteries are going to sit there and pile up with no way of disposing them.
Actually, this is not true at all. The batteries used in hybrids and EV's, whether they are nickel-metal hydride or even the newer lithium-ion, are both recyclable. Furthermore, both of those batteries, unlike traditional lead-acid, are not considered toxic.


I think there is serious misunderstandings regarding all-electric vehicles. Sure they have some downsides, such as charging times vs filling up with gasoline at a pump. But EV's are increasing in range while simultaneously decreasing in cost and charge times. Even more, the infrastructure for charging stations is growing rapidly, as it's faster, easier, and cheaper to put up charging stations than it is to build a gas station. EV's are coming quickly, and all the auto-makers are pushing to make it happen very soon.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us About Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: