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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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Remote Start vs Intelligent access with Push Button Start

What's the difference between "Remote Start" and "Intelligent access with Push Button Start"? From my searching it looks like Intelligent access is true proximity even locks when you leave. So my question is do you still have to put a key in with the lower option remote start or is it still proximity and push start?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 03:26 PM
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Remote start would be a physical key with the buttons made into it to lock/unlock/remote start. You would still have to put the key in the ignition to operate the truck. The intelligent access push button start is a fob with a hidden physical key inside of it that can be left in your pocket or wherever. It won't do anything without user input but is required to be within the proximity for any of the functions you do perform to work. The doors won't lock unless you push the fob button or the door locking tab.
Hopefully that answers your question?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KCRebel
Remote start would be a physical key with the buttons made into it to lock/unlock/remote start. You would still have to put the key in the ignition to operate the truck. The intelligent access push button start is a fob with a hidden physical key inside of it that can be left in your pocket or wherever. It won't do anything without user input but is required to be within the proximity for any of the functions you do perform to work. The doors won't lock unless you push the fob button or the door locking tab.
Hopefully that answers your question?
Exactly what I was looking to know thanks!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 03:51 PM
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Get the push button, you won't regret it.
I wish Ford would give us that option, truck locking by itself. It's a nice feature to have.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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You can have Remote start with out PEP. ie meaning you have to insert a key in the ignition to start., But PEP will always include remote start


Remote start means I can push buttons on the key fob when I'm in the house and the truck will start and idle. This is available with either a Key'd ignition of the PEP ignition. The engine will shut off if you attempt to put the truck in drive with out a key in the ignition or a PEP fob being inside the cab. Usefull to start and warm up a cold truck.

Usually by time you've upgraded to a trim level that offers PEP ignition, You also have the remote start included in the trim level package. ie Lariat Ultimate, King Ranch, and Platinum.

PEP is a proximity key, That allows you to unlock doors by just placing your hand in the depression on the door and will allow you to start the truck by putting a foot on the brake and pressing the PEP button PEP by itself doesn't allow you to start the truck from a "Remote Location" But sinceyou can't buy PEP with out getting Remote Start it always included..
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 04:32 PM
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I've got push button, remote start, and intelligent access but the latter can be kind of odd sometimes. I never have to take my fob out of my pocket to get in, drive away, and park since it self-unlocks and self-locks, tailgate too, but its kind of a PITA if I need to get in and out but keep the doors closed like washing the truck or unloading multiple trips in the rain or whatever. Might be a way to temporarily disable it but haven't come across that yet. Still like these options tho and would do it again
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ymsmiley
I've got push button, remote start, and intelligent access but the latter can be kind of odd sometimes. I never have to take my fob out of my pocket to get in, drive away, and park since it self-unlocks and self-locks, tailgate too, but its kind of a PITA if I need to get in and out but keep the doors closed like washing the truck or unloading multiple trips in the rain or whatever. Might be a way to temporarily disable it but haven't come across that yet. Still like these options tho and would do it again
The truck doesn't do any of those functions automatically. Some manufacturers do offer a true proximity unlock where it will unlock once you get within so many feet of the vehicle with the fob but the Super Duty system isn't that way. It requires the operator to perform an action for any of these functions to occur.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 05:14 PM
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Not sure what you mean. The only action is to get my pocket (fob) close to either front door or put my hand on any door handle if that's what you are referring to. The tailgate doesn't even have any kind of external locking mechanism. It's all proximity-based, but no not like if I'm 10' away and I still have to push the start button even if remotely started

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The truck doesn't do any of those functions automatically. Some manufacturers do offer a true proximity unlock where it will unlock once you get within so many feet of the vehicle with the fob but the Super Duty system isn't that way. It requires the operator to perform an action for any of these functions to occur.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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Here is your comment above that I was responding to that was incorrect. "since it self-unlocks and self-locks, tailgate too". That would imply the truck performs those functions on its own which it doesn't.
The second incorrect comment is "The only action is to get my pocket (fob) close to either front door or put my hand on any door handle"
Both things have to occur for this function and that only works with the front doors if it is a crew cab. This is a complaint of mine for all vehicles on the road today with the keyless system. For the ones of us who work out of our vehicles and access the rear door last upon exiting and first upon returning this adds time and unnecessary movements that are repeated 8-10 times every day.

With the fob on your person you have to put your hand inside one of the front door handles to unlock the door or press the unlock button on the fob.
To lock the truck you have to press the button on one of the front door handles or press the lock button on the fob.
To release the tailgate you have to press the button on the fob or the button on the tailgate or the button on the dash.
None of these actions (lock/unlock/release tailgate) occur on their own even if the fob is in proximity without specific operator input.

Not being a jerk but making sure anyone visiting/reading this forum isn't mislead about how the Intelligent Access program works on these trucks.
 
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That's not my experience but done splitting hairs. Over and out
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ymsmiley
That's not my experience but done splitting hairs. Over and out
Not splitting hairs. The process you described above won’t work with these trucks.
You don’t understand how the system works and have no business sharing the same misinformation to others as “your experience”.
Simple as that.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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Mine works exactly as KCRebel described, I wish it unlocked automatically as I walked up and locked as I walked away My Denali works in that fashion
 
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 01:28 PM
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I think it is annoying that you have to get the lariat ultimate package to get the fob and push button start. When I was pricing between Ram and Ford, Ram has the option for push button separate from any package. I wanted it on the my F350 that I ordered but I wasn't going to pay 3500 extra for it and the heated steering wheel. Those are the two things I wanted from the ultimate.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by titus_4
I think it is annoying that you have to get the lariat ultimate package to get the fob and push button start. When I was pricing between Ram and Ford, Ram has the option for push button separate from any package. I wanted it on the my F350 that I ordered but I wasn't going to pay 3500 extra for it and the heated steering wheel. Those are the two things I wanted from the ultimate.
Coming from GM it is fascinating and maddening how Ford packages features. Then add in the trim levels don't really mean anything as they all can and likely are optioned differently it makes finding what you want extremely difficult as well as determining what a particular truck is actually worth vs what the badge says it should be.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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Not splitting hairs. The process you described above won’t work with these trucks.
You don’t understand how the system works and have no business sharing the same misinformation to others as “your experience”.
Simple as that.
I second KCRebel and he`s 100%correct.
No feature related to the Intelligent Access System performs automatically without some actual "physical"/hands on input to the vehicle and the key fob must be in close proximity to the vehicle for these inputs to work.
 
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