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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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Camper Package Question...

hi everyone,

Im about to order a 2019 F250 Lariat or King Ranch, Super Crew with the 8ft bed.

I plan on towing a travel trailer about 3 times per year...
trailer weight is around 11,700 with a dry hitch weight of around 1400.

Was wondering about the differences the camper package would make with the extra springs etc....

and or if I opted not to get it, I might go to the 20" wheels vs. the 18s" that are required with the camper package.

95% of the time, this truck will be my daily driver.

Thx for any and all replies!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 12:22 PM
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I think there is also a payload difference you might wanna look at going to 20's versus the 18's. You lose a bit on the 20's.

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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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The optional camper package for the F250 without the High Capacity Trailer Tow Package (optional with the diesel) adds higher rate front springs, an auxiliary leaf to each rear spring pack, a rear sway bar, and a vehicle-specific camper certification. It does not officially increase payload, although I would expect a reduction is rear-end sag when heavily loaded.

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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 06:21 PM
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Unless you're single, get the crew cab.

Kind of wish I did, but hard to justify buying another new truck for an occasional back seat passenger.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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You didn't specify if the truck your ordering is gas or diesel. If diesel you'll quickly run out of payload capacity with a tongue heavy camper like that with an F-250 although I'm not sure how payload increases with an 8ft bed. You might want to consider an F-350 and be done with it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2018 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bohojo
hi everyone,

Im about to order a 2019 F250 Lariat or King Ranch, Super Crew with the 8ft bed.

I plan on towing a travel trailer about 3 times per year...
trailer weight is around 11,700 with a dry hitch weight of around 1400.

Was wondering about the differences the camper package would make with the extra springs etc....

and or if I opted not to get it, I might go to the 20" wheels vs. the 18s" that are required with the camper package.

95% of the time, this truck will be my daily driver.

Thx for any and all replies!
Are those trailer weights from literature, a guess or a scale? I ask because my 11,300lb TT has a scale verified 1840lb tongue weight loaded up for a weekend trip, both trailer and tongue weights go up from there for our longer trips. As was said above, that kind of tongue weight can put you over the available payload of a diesel F-250 pretty easily, you may want to look at F-350s.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2018 | 07:36 AM
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I have the camper package on a '17 F250 crew cab 6.2L 4x4 short bed. Cargo capacity per door jam sticker is 3,111 pounds.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2018 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stattlich1
I have the camper package on a '17 F250 crew cab 6.2L 4x4 short bed. Cargo capacity per door jam sticker is 3,111 pounds.
Yeah the gassers have higher payloads. My STX F-250 has a payload capacity of 3305 but my '12 F-250 diesel only had 2300lbs of payload. Big difference but the gassers aren't rated to tow as much as a diesel.
 
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Originally Posted by stattlich1
I have the camper package on a '17 F250 crew cab 6.2L 4x4 short bed. Cargo capacity per door jam sticker is 3,111 pounds.
I have the camper package on my '18 F-250 super cab (Lariat) 6.7L, 4X4, short bed. Cargo capacity per the door jamb sticker is 2448 pounds.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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When researchng superduty options, I reached the same conclusion: if you need the diesel, get a 350 to mitigate the significant payload penalty of the diesel's extra weight!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2018 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bohojo
hi everyone,

Im about to order a 2019 F250 Lariat or King Ranch, Super Crew with the 8ft bed.

I plan on towing a travel trailer about 3 times per year...
trailer weight is around 11,700 with a dry hitch weight of around 1400.

Was wondering about the differences the camper package would make with the extra springs etc....

and or if I opted not to get it, I might go to the 20" wheels vs. the 18s" that are required with the camper package.

95% of the time, this truck will be my daily driver.

Thx for any and all replies!
If you are buying to keep it, buy the most you can afford. You're towing habits can change over time. I bought the most I could with the employee discount in 2003. It is not rated to tow the fifth wheel I now want to purchase. Depends on how long you plan to keep the truck. WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old May 18, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Agree with Tennessee. Had the camper pkg on my 2000. Glad I did. Got the 350 this time for the same reason. Even if you use the truck to tow 1%, a bad experience towing 1% negates a lot of normal driving 99%.
 
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Old May 20, 2019 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindenwood
When researchng superduty options, I reached the same conclusion: if you need the diesel, get a 350 to mitigate the significant payload penalty of the diesel's extra weight!
Agreed!

The late model F250's are kind of odd ducks. Not enough payload on a diesel to handle the pin weight of a 5er; however, the gasser has excellent payload but lacks power to pull a 5er.

When looking for my Super Duty, I knew I wanted the 6.2 for the 7500 pound trailer we were pulling as I did not need a diesel at all. My '11 F150 Eco had 1529 of payload and the '16 F250 now has 2766. Had I gone with an equivalent '18 F250 XLT it would have about 3,200 payload.

I also considered a 2014-2016 F350 with the 6.2 and the payload numbers were insane.

Even with the 2766 I have now, with the trailer hitched up and loaded, everyone in the truck and the bed loaded with propane, a firepit, some firewood and bikes, I still have 900lbs capacity. Its a good feeling knowing that the truck isn't overloaded.
 
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Old May 20, 2019 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bohojo

hi everyone,

Im about to order a 2019 F250 Lariat or King Ranch, Super Crew with the 8ft bed.

I plan on towing a travel trailer about 3 times per year...
trailer weight is around 11,700 with a dry hitch weight of around 1400.

Was wondering about the differences the camper package would make with the extra springs etc....

and or if I opted not to get it, I might go to the 20" wheels vs. the 18s" that are required with the camper package.

95% of the time, this truck will be my daily driver.

Thx for any and all replies!
Keep in mind, the camper package is intended to help the truck handle a slide in camper better by stiffening the springs, thereby reducing sway from a fairly top heavy load with no support other than the truck underneath it - unlike a travel trailer or fifth wheel.
The camper package is not going to appreciably improve how your truck tows a camper, though it will improve how it carries heavy loads in the bed.
 
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Old May 20, 2019 | 11:22 PM
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The extra sway control of the camper package will help with sway control of the trailer if you have a 5th-wheel or a bumper-pull with a weight-distributing hitch. Higher-rate springs front and rear will help as well, though not as much as getting an F350. If I were doing it, I'd get an F350 for the numbers (that seem to be minimums) that you are talking about.
 
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