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Old 12-08-2018, 02:15 PM
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Order without cab lights?

So far, EVERY truck I have seen on the lots has the cab lights.
Since I will be ordering a truck, and the lights are ....meh..... and a potential place for a water leak, I am considering ordering without them.
Is there a reason or legality for ordering with them?
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:27 PM
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I like them. Looked at many trucks before I made my decision but honestly I think it sets its apart from the F-150, regardless of the size. Its just a personal preference though.

I passed up a truck on the lot that had everything I wanted to the tee, but no cab lights and 360 camera. I ended up special ordering exactly how I wanted it.
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:36 PM
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I think they are required if you will be over 80" wide or 30' long.
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:06 PM
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I think they are required if you will be over 80" wide or 30' long.
Welp, dang. Glad I asked. I was not expecting that, your response got me googling. Guess I should have started with that, but seriously glad I asked. https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...nge-lig-272501
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:10 PM
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These aren't 18-wheelers... cab lights are for looks. If you're on the fence, I'd recommending passing on them. Why take a perfectly good cab and cut several holes in it, and fill with often poor-fitting plastic housings? Also more to wash and wax around.

You'll see some discuss DOT regs, but bottom line, our trucks don't need them. Any trailer you pull that's of DOT-regulated size to require them, will (likely) have them already...think top corners, widest points at wheel well, etc. That's why Ford has them as an option.
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FBO Cookie Monster View Post
So far, EVERY truck I have seen on the lots has the cab lights.
Since I will be ordering a truck, and the lights are ....meh..... and a potential place for a water leak, I am considering ordering without them.
Is there a reason or legality for ordering with them?
Thanks.
I've special ordered three Superduty trucks over the years (1999, 2010, 2019) and have never ordered the cab lights. I see no use for them and agree that they are just more roof penetrations for potential leaks.
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:13 PM
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They are standard on duallys
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:32 PM
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They are standard on duallys
And a dually isn't legally able to tow a longer, wider, or taller trailer...so this strikes me as (legally) unnecessary, despite Ford checking the option box for all dually owners.

(I could be totally wrong, it has been known to happen ...but I'd need to see it in writing to believe it.)
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:42 PM
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And a dually isn't legally able to tow a longer, wider, or taller trailer...so this strikes me as (legally) unnecessary, despite Ford checking the option box for all dually owners.

(I could be totally wrong, it has been known to happen ...but I'd need to see it in writing to believe it.)
DRW trucks are legally required to have them because they are 96" wide. SRW trucks are 80" so they are optional.
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:55 PM
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Can't stand them. I don't need a bunch of holes punched in the roof of any truck I will own. I passed on adding them when ordering my 2019 Lariat.
 
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I've ordered my trucks because I could never find SRW trucks on the lot with the cab lights. I like them.
My 2011 had 150,000 miles, My 2015 had almost 100,000 miles and my current 2017 has 36,000 miles
That's over quarter of a million miles with no leaks, no problems with my cab lights.
 
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I like em. And will have them going forward on any truck.
 
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DRW trucks are legally required to have them because they are 96" wide. SRW trucks are 80" so they are optional.
What law is this? (please refer me....I've tried to find already, maybe my Google-Fu is weak. )
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:49 PM
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What law is this? (please refer me....I've tried to find already, maybe my Google-Fu is weak. )
*Channels inner Google-Fu*

That would be CFR 2004, Title 49, Vol 5, Section 571.108, Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-20...sec571-108.pdf

Like most laws, it's a fun read... but you can just jump down to table 1 on page 310 - "REQUIRED MOTOR VEHICLE LIGHTING EQUIPMENT OTHER THAN HEADLAMPS - Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Trailers, and Buses, of 80 or More Inches Overall Width". The 5 cab lights are the combination of identification lamps (middle 3) and clearance lamps (outer 2). You'll notice that the law also requires them on the rear... that's why duallys also come with the 3 red lights under the tailgate.
 
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