What's the deal with all the late models
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What's the deal with all the late models
All. Since acquiring a new to me 1961 f100 flarside, I have been pouring over this forum looking for information needed for my restoration. During that time, I've noticed that threads related to 65 and 66 trucks nearly monopolize this forum. Discussions on 61s are rarer than hens teeth. I can't help but wonder what is driving this trend.
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
4. Or are there simply less of the earlier models due to the "unpopular" unibody?
I would be interested in hearing any theories from members. Thanks.
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All. Since acquiring a new to me 1961 f100 flarside, I have been pouring over this forum looking for information needed for my restoration. During that time, I've noticed that threads related to 65 and 66 trucks nearly monopolize this forum. Discussions on 61s are rarer than hens teeth. I can't help but wonder what is driving this trend.
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
I would be interested in hearing any theories from members. Thanks.
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
4. Or are there simply less of the earlier models due to the "unpopular" unibody?
I would be interested in hearing any theories from members. Thanks.
1961 F100 = 99,546
1965 F100 = 220,306
1966 F100 = 260,873
1965 and 1966 combined is nearly half a million. Almost five times as many as just 1961 alone.
1961, 62 and 63 F100 Unibody trucks numbered nearly as many as the 1961-1966 F100 Flaresides. Only 5,000 less in the 3 years (171,928) compared to the 6 years for the Flareside (176,922).
The new Styleside bed introduced in 1964 became very popular right away. 1964 F100 Stylesides (152,272) were double the number of 1963 F100 Stylesides (76,728).
1964, 65 and 66 F100 Stylesides totaled 555,350.
Chad
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All. Since acquiring a new to me 1961 f100 flarside, I have been pouring over this forum looking for information needed for my restoration. During that time, I've noticed that threads related to 65 and 66 trucks nearly monopolize this forum. Discussions on 61s are rarer than hens teeth. I can't help but wonder what is driving this trend.
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
4. Or are there simply less of the earlier models due to the "unpopular" unibody?
I would be interested in hearing any theories from members. Thanks.Let’s make Tuesday nights open for 1961 discussion only. : )
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All. Since acquiring a new to me 1961 f100 flarside, I have been pouring over this forum looking for information needed for my restoration. During that time, I've noticed that threads related to 65 and 66 trucks nearly monopolize this forum. Discussions on 61s are rarer than hens teeth. I can't help but wonder what is driving this trend.
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
1. Are those years more popular or in demand?
2. Are there simply more of them around?
3. Was there some societal change such as recession, shift from cars to trucks, etc?
4. Or are there simply less of the earlier models due to the "unpopular" unibody?
I would be interested in hearing any theories from members. Thanks.
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Here goes.
1. I'm not at all bitter, just curious.
2. A special night devoted to 61 flaresides is not necessary as I enjoy learning about other years as well.
3. Unpopular was probably not the best choice of words. There are a lot of unibodies out there and their owners are proud to own them. But, I can't help but think that if the design was really "the cat's meow" then Ford would have continued making them.
4. Finally, I have no regrets on my truck purchase. I love my old truck and am having a blast working on her restoration.
1. I'm not at all bitter, just curious.
2. A special night devoted to 61 flaresides is not necessary as I enjoy learning about other years as well.
3. Unpopular was probably not the best choice of words. There are a lot of unibodies out there and their owners are proud to own them. But, I can't help but think that if the design was really "the cat's meow" then Ford would have continued making them.
4. Finally, I have no regrets on my truck purchase. I love my old truck and am having a blast working on her restoration.
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I think your first two questions are correctly answered but your third one is kind of interesting. You use the term "societal changes" and there is a trace of truth there. In 1965, in response to the perceived notion that people wanted more than simple utility from light trucks , Ford introduced a number of higher end models. The Camper Special in several trim levels, the Ranger package with bucket seats, optional power brakes, power steering, One could even order a crew cab. These units were the most expensive models Ford offered and I believe owners tended to take better care of them. CS's and Rangers seem to have a better than average survival rate , in my uneducated opinion.
The trucks may all look similar but beneath the sheet metal there is a world of difference. The models through '64 ran on the engineering and powerplants of the fifties. The 65 platform and subsequent years shared many parts until 79 and are more easily modified for modern driving trends.
Another smaller point is that prior to 64 all stylesides carried the 'wrong box'/ I'm guessing those weren't real hot sellers on the trade-in market ( altho I'd grab one if I found a good one. I'm partial to mutts))
61-63s are less well represented but they're still damn good trucks.
The trucks may all look similar but beneath the sheet metal there is a world of difference. The models through '64 ran on the engineering and powerplants of the fifties. The 65 platform and subsequent years shared many parts until 79 and are more easily modified for modern driving trends.
Another smaller point is that prior to 64 all stylesides carried the 'wrong box'/ I'm guessing those weren't real hot sellers on the trade-in market ( altho I'd grab one if I found a good one. I'm partial to mutts))
61-63s are less well represented but they're still damn good trucks.
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They were unpopular when new due to the doors jamming when there was a load in the box. The unibody , or as Ford called it Integral body, is more of a fullsize Ranchero showy truck not a workhorse. The load needs to float on the chassis separate from the passenger compartment when the loads get heavier. Just my opinion. Also, they were not available in 4x4 and Ford put the 57-60 wrongbox as an option for 62-63. There had to be a reason for that blunder scramble.
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They were unpopular when new due to the doors jamming when there was a load in the box. The unibody , or as Ford called it Integral body, is more of a fullsize Ranchero showy truck not a workhorse. The load needs to float on the chassis separate from the passenger compartment when the loads get heavier. Just my opinion. Also, they were not available in 4x4 and Ford put the 57-60 wrongbox as an option for 62-63. There had to be a reason for that blunder scramble.