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Old 12-08-2018, 10:21 PM
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Ah yes, I have limited experience, oh I wish I knew everything like you, BTW why do you think the bolts on the cover were so difficult to remove if they had less than 35 on them, the assembly team at Ford must be equally inexperienced!
 
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:32 PM
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I can tell you've got limited experience in mechanics here. And the rest of your postings reveal this as well. The limiting factor here isn't the bolts, it's the thin stamped steel cover. Applying maximum force to the bolts on a thin stamped steel part isn't the smart thing to do here. Your bolts loosened up because the gaskets shrunk with age. The cover on these rear ends does nothing but cover a hole. That's why it's made of thin stamped steel or plastic, so please explain to all here why you'd use the maximum torque value for grade 8 bolts on this part ?
You must be some sort of internet troll, a man comes in and asks a question, I answer via the manual, you come in to argue with me, yet you give no answer for his question, the cover isn't plastic, and it's not thin stamped tin, give him the necessary answer or STFU and move on!
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 04:27 AM
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I finish the job yesterday, it took me almost 3 hours taking my time; those bolts required serious torque to unbolt them, even though I put DW40 for the last 2 days they were there for good... anyway with the breaking bar I did it. At the end I torque them to 40 ft/lbs I hope I didn’t over torque them, if the differential start leaking I’ll report back.
Good news on finishing this job---hope it solves the leaking for ever now. What sort of sealant did you use?
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 05:45 AM
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Grade 8 versus grade 5 is a difference in tensile strength, not the required torque value.
A person could torque either of the grades to any desired torque value.
The difficulty removing the old bolts could be due to their age and rust and 25+ years of being in place.

Ill disagree with both of you: torque wrench isn’t needed for most jobs when a person has experience. I certainly wouldn’t bother with a torque wrench on a simple differential cover. Just zip them in with a battery impact lightly and then medium power. The silicon will smoosh out a bit to tell you when you’re done.
 
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Good news on finishing this job---hope it solves the leaking for ever now. What sort of sealant did you use?
Thank you, I used Permatex 81182 Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker, 3 oz.
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Permatex 81182 Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker, 3 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0023GM2KK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_SVENkoqIO8xPi
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:26 AM
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Between LocTite and Permatex (same company really) there's not much we can't seal, stick or lock down huh?
 
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Between LocTite and Permatex (same company really) there's not much we can't seal, stick or lock down huh?
hopefully!😅
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:30 AM
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Good job on the repair

If you are going to have a diff. leak, that is the easiest one to fix.
 
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Ah yes, I have limited experience, oh I wish I knew everything like you, BTW why do you think the bolts on the cover were so difficult to remove if they had less than 35 on them, the assembly team at Ford must be equally inexperienced!
Just your asking this question further illustrates your lack of experience. They get baked in place with age. No secret to this. Some bolts do, some bolts do not. The people doing the assembly use an air tool preset to a fixed torque value. There's really no experience involved here. You can train a monkey to do that job in 5 minutes if that's all that this person does on the line. Tighten 10 bolts, repeat. Over and over again on a hundred trucks in an 8 hour shift. Glad it's not my job. I have over 40 years experience in wrenching on everything from a lawnmower to bull dozers.
 
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Guys let it go! Come on. You are getting into a argument over the correct way to tighten diff cover bolts! If you want to keep bickering, do it with PM's.

You know it's bad if I have to be a voice of reason. Let's keep things civil.
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 12:29 PM
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Guys let it go! Come on. You are getting into a argument over the correct way to tighten diff cover bolts! If you want to keep bickering, do it with PM's.

You know it's bad if I have to be a voice of reason. Let's keep things civil.
I am being civil. I don't appreciate being told I don't know what I'm talking about by someone who tells some one to tighten differential cover bolts to two different torque values based on what the grade of bolt it has.
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly driver


Thank you, I used Permatex 81182 Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker, 3 oz.
Permatex 81182 Gear Oil RTV Gasket Maker, 3 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0023GM2KK..._SVENkoqIO8xPi
I need to look for that, I plan to do mine again, it's been 15 years since I did it last, I haven't seen the green in the parts store, will have to wait till spring tho.
BTW since it lasted so long, I believe I'll go by the manual again!
 
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:37 PM
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An RTV specifically for tranfer cases and gear oil, Thanks for posting that.

 
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I don't think I used the orange/red stuff at the time, I swear I picked up something suggested for the application, but all I see at the store now is the red, blue, and the non hardening stuff used on water pumps, I remember that last one, had to replace the water pump on a Caprice, first I ever heard of that stuff, but the sealer Ford used on the diff cover, it was really on there, was like some bolts were still in it.
 
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I ordered the OEM FORD OEM Rear Axle-Differential Pumpkin Cover Gasket TA29 for my differential. Do I need RTV as well? Or skip the gasket and use RTV only? My differential is leaking at 100k. 1998. Probably has never been replaced.
 


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