Notices
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Slick Sixties Ford Truck

352 FE Engine in detail

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 12:26 PM
  #1  
stone_cold_jo's Avatar
stone_cold_jo
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Germany, Ruhrgebiet
352 FE Engine in detail

Hi everybody,

as stated out already, I pulled out the V8 engine from my 1965 F100 2WD. Now that it is sitting next to me, I can see all sides of the engine and check the numbers.
Thanks to NumberDummy, he gave some information about the engine, but maybe now we can discover all secrets. And that is where I need your help. I know, it is not the original engine, but I plan to renewal it. So I would like to get as much information about the engine, as possible.
So what information(numbers did I find?
  • Intake: 3J27
  • Intake: C4SE 9425A
  • Heads: EI
  • Heads: C8AEH
  • Heads: DIF
  • Heads: MIKE (maybe some of the prev. owner? or a joke)
  • Engine block front: 39 352
  • Engine block back: 23 352
  • Engine block back: 8N162476 (maybe a S/N?)
Sorry, but for some reasons I'm not able to upload the pictures to the thread. So I uploaded them to google: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...dGR0s1a0tYUVpB I hope you can access the pics.



Thanks in advance for your help.
Joachim
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 01:15 PM
  #2  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 219
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

Originally Posted by stone_cold_jo

So what information(numbers did I find?
  • Intake: 3J27 = Casting Date Code
  • Intake: C4SE 9425A = Intake Casting ID No (in this case a 1964 390 4V with CCV provision in rear of intake)
  • Heads: EI = ?
  • Heads: C8AE-H (common 1968/ 390 heads)
  • Heads: DIF = Dearborn Foundry
  • Heads: MIKE (maybe some of the prev. owner? or a joke) = ?
  • Engine block front: 39 352 = 352 common casting no - numerical 39 mold code
  • Engine block back: 23 352 = same as above
  • Engine block back: 8N162476 (maybe a S/N?) = Partial VIN of Vehicle Installed In - 8 = 1968

 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 02:27 PM
  #3  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 785
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by stone_cold_jo
  • Intake: 3J27
  • Intake: C4SE 9425A
  • Heads: C8AEH
  • 3J27 = Intake cast September (J) 27, 1963 (3) // C4SE-9425-A = 1964 Thunderbird 390 4V intake manifold // C8AE-H = 1968/71 360/390 heads.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 03:21 PM
  #4  
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,522
Likes: 11
From: Townsend, MT
$10 says it's not a 352...

Pull a spark plug and measure the stroke. 3.5" means it is a 352 or 360, 3.78" means 390 (or 406 or 427, but probably not).
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 06:15 PM
  #5  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 219
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
  • C4SE-9425-A = 1964 Thunderbird 390 4V intake manifold // C8AE-H = 1968/71 360/390 heads.

This is the intake that was popular for 4V swaps. It had the road draft/ PCV provision in the rear of the intake.

I bet it is a 360/390 also.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 09:30 PM
  #6  
ibuzzard's Avatar
ibuzzard
See A Man About A Horse
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,921
Likes: 669
From: Mariposa, Ca.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
$10 says it's not a 352....
How about 10 Deutsche Marks?
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 09:40 PM
  #7  
Jolly Roger Joe's Avatar
Jolly Roger Joe
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,599
Likes: 34
From: Rockingham, VA
Originally Posted by ibuzzard


How about 10 Deutsche Marks?
That would be 8.76 Euro now.
 
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2018 | 10:29 PM
  #8  
ibuzzard's Avatar
ibuzzard
See A Man About A Horse
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,921
Likes: 669
From: Mariposa, Ca.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
That would be 8.76 Euro now.

I hate that danged metric system . .
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 18, 2018 | 08:07 AM
  #9  
stone_cold_jo's Avatar
stone_cold_jo
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Germany, Ruhrgebiet
Thanks for all the information, so far. I will check the stroke and come back.

What about the engine colour. I repainted the valve covers, but I think this colour code sticks to some later engine. Is there a colour code for the lighter blue or an address, where to get such paint available?
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2018 | 08:26 AM
  #10  
6t6merc's Avatar
6t6merc
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,697
Likes: 46
From: Vancouver
Randy Boss 429 will know the correct two-part paint, but PlastiKote 224 is good for a spray-can job.
Eric
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2018 | 08:27 AM
  #11  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 219
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

Originally Posted by stone_cold_jo

What about the engine colour. I repainted the valve covers, but I think this colour code sticks to some later engine. Is there a colour code for the lighter blue or an address, where to get such paint available?
Here is a color swatch. I think it is fairly accurate. I don't think FORD painted the engine block/heads blue until 1966. They were painted black before.




 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2018 | 09:35 AM
  #12  
TA455HO's Avatar
TA455HO
Lead Gopher
Veteran: Army
Photogenic
Community Builder
Liked
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 10,060
Likes: 1,613
From: Seattle
Club FTE Silver Member

DAR 13358 is also what I use on my 1966 trucks. Good stuff.





Chad
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2018 | 12:31 AM
  #13  
stone_cold_jo's Avatar
stone_cold_jo
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Germany, Ruhrgebiet
Thanks again, for the feedback. I think the DE1601 / DAR 11297 will be the right one. I think DAR 13358 is the one, I used for the valve covers, already. Lets find out, how to get this as an engine color in Europe - will be fun I think
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2018 | 12:49 AM
  #14  
stone_cold_jo's Avatar
stone_cold_jo
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Germany, Ruhrgebiet
Well, something completely different: Are there any "specific" mounting points for the engine lifter, while pulling the engine out? I couldn't find them, so I used a hosting sling, around the whole engine (including transmission). That worked quite ok, but I would like to use an engine balancer when the engine goes back to the frame. I often saw some kind of mounting adapter where the carburetor is mounted, but these four bolts look quite thin to me.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2018 | 10:23 AM
  #15  
'65Ford's Avatar
'65Ford
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,672
Likes: 373
I've bolted to four corners of the heads on the exhaust flanges. I've also bolted on just two corners using the hole at the end of the heads (each head has a hole on just one end).

I've seen guys remove the carburetor and use an adaptor plate to pull and install engines...even on aluminum intakes. I've seen it enough to have complete confidence installing and engine that way, I just don't have an adaptor plate. Nice thing is it allows you to tilt an engine in any direction during install.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE