Originally Posted by orion250

If you had ever experienced it, I think you would have a different take on it. Experienced it in my 99 Land Rover Discovery, scary as hell!!! You literally have to almost come to a stop before the wobble stops. When your just cruising down the Interstate and hit an expansion joint and your car starts shaking violently all of a sudden and won't stop, it scares the crap out of you!

Originally Posted by Hjabernathy

I have a 2019 F-350 4x4 CCLB 6.7L on order to arrive in December. I am VERY concerned about the problem with these models termed DEATH WOBBLE (DW) by people who own the trucks and have experienced it. Ford has termed it "sustained steering wheel oscillation" (SSWO). I'll refrain from saying what I want to about that 'sugar coated' label.

I have been doing a lot of reading about this problem. I will be putting the finishing touches on a detailed summary of my readings soon. In the meantime, it appears to me that Ford has NOT solved the DW/SSWO problem through the 2018 model year. And I don't believe that the 2019's have been on the road long enough, as in accumulating the common number of miles before it happens, to determine if, more like WHEN, they'll experience it. Contrary to some people's opinions, I see no confirming evidence that TSB 18-2268, Ford's designated solution to the problem, has been effective. In too many cases it hasn't even mitigated the problem, which I fear is all that Ford is hoping they can achieve. I'll save you the trouble of looking up the definition of the word 'mitigate' - make less severe, serious or painful. On the contrary, too many owners have reported re-occurrence of DW/SSWO after implementation of the repairs contained in the TSB.

I would like to believe that a problem such as DW/SSWO can be corrected such that it is completely solved. I would certainly like to have confidence that mechanical automotive engineers can develop an understanding of the cause of the problem so that they can create a definitive solution. I am not convinced that this has occurred to date. Ford's TSB addresses only two things - the steering linkage damper (what some call a steering stabilizer I believe, essentially a shock absorber across the front of the steering system) and caster adjustment. On the other hand, Super Duty truck owners and Ford mechanics have discovered several other issues with the front end and steering linkage. More than one owner has been told by a service advisor (you ain't usually allowed to talk to the mechanic) after examination of their Super Duty following the occurrence of DW/SSWO that "the TIE-ROD BALL JOINTS are shot at 8,000 miles or the DRAG LINK connections are loose or the TRACK BAR connections are loose and/or worn out." And still too many truck owners re-experience DW/SSWO after the TSB and/or several of these other things are implemented, replaced and repaired. I truly wish I were an engineer capable of evaluating all the mechanical elements that make up a Ford Super Duty front end. I desire even more that I could then develop a solution to the horrifying, and soon-to-be devastating and disastrous, occurrence of Death Wobble and Sustained Steering Wheel Oscillation.

I certainly hope that the problem does not exacerbate into the disastrous results of the last major problem that Ford, in conjunction with Firestone/Bridgestone, encountered before they were forced to figure out the nature of the problem. About 20 years ago there were a multitude of rollover accidents caused by tires blowing out. In this disastrous period, "Two hundred and seventy one people were killed and 823 people were injured in the United States as a result of these failures.[51] The large majority of accidents took place in California, Arizona, Texas, and Florida. An additional 46 people were killed in Venezuela. A large number of lawsuits were filed against both Ford and Firestone." Here's a link to a very detailed story on this disastrous debacle if you care to read about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firest...re_controversy.

For those of you who think this is blowing the DW/SSWO problem out of proportion, consider that there has been one reported significant injury to a driver's shoulder that required surgery to repair, this instance being reported in October 2018 to the NHTSA. Of greater concern, the number of close calls and near misses are accumulating at a frightening pace. Drivers are telling stories of their trucks "jumping" across multiple lanes", "swerving off the road and ending up in a ditch 40 to 50 feet off the roadway", "steering wheels jerking side-to-side with such force that only a strong man could hang on" and the one I have come to like the best - "I am NOT letting my wife drive this dangerous truck." That last one would be funny if the reason wasn't so serious. It greatly disturbs me to say the following given the truck that I am soon to be driving, but it is only a matter of time before fatalities occur. Lest you doubt this dire forecast, take the time to read the reports in the following link, most of which are best described as horrifying: Ford F-350 general Steering Problems - part 1.

Now I'm sure that there will be multitudes of Ford devotees who will chime in and defend the company against my protestations that the company has NOT identified the cause of the problem, has not developed a solution, and most certainly is not interested in alerting the public, particularly Super Duty truck owners, of this seriously dangerous potential problem. Consider the huge number of Super Duty truck owners who do not read this forum; they are most likely in the dark. I certainly would be if I had not stumbled across this forum during my research on 3/4 and 1-ton trucks. I doubt that Ford is placing WARNING STICKERS on the visors such as they do for other things that are much less dangerous to one's well being.

I for one hope that my truck, and me or my wife, never experiences DW/SSWO. The existing evidence strongly suggests that it is not something that afflicts every Super Duty truck. So maybe we'll be fortunate. At the least, we will know what is happening and how best to survive it should it rear its ugly head IN OUR FACES.

Originally Posted by Hjabernathy

I have a 2019 F-350 4x4 CCLB 6.7L on order to arrive in December. I am VERY concerned about the problem with these models termed DEATH WOBBLE (DW) by people who own the trucks and have experienced it. Ford has termed it "sustained steering wheel oscillation" (SSWO). I'll refrain from saying what I want to about that 'sugar coated' label.

I have been doing a lot of reading about this problem. I will be putting the finishing touches on a detailed summary of my readings soon. In the meantime, it appears to me that Ford has NOT solved the DW/SSWO problem through the 2018 model year. And I don't believe that the 2019's have been on the road long enough, as in accumulating the common number of miles before it happens, to determine if, more like WHEN, they'll experience it. Contrary to some people's opinions, I see no confirming evidence that TSB 18-2268, Ford's designated solution to the problem, has been effective. In too many cases it hasn't even mitigated the problem, which I fear is all that Ford is hoping they can achieve. I'll save you the trouble of looking up the definition of the word 'mitigate' - make less severe, serious or painful. On the contrary, too many owners have reported re-occurrence of DW/SSWO after implementation of the repairs contained in the TSB.

I would like to believe that a problem such as DW/SSWO can be corrected such that it is completely solved. I would certainly like to have confidence that mechanical automotive engineers can develop an understanding of the cause of the problem so that they can create a definitive solution. I am not convinced that this has occurred to date. Ford's TSB addresses only two things - the steering linkage damper (what some call a steering stabilizer I believe, essentially a shock absorber across the front of the steering system) and caster adjustment. On the other hand, Super Duty truck owners and Ford mechanics have discovered several other issues with the front end and steering linkage. More than one owner has been told by a service advisor (you ain't usually allowed to talk to the mechanic) after examination of their Super Duty following the occurrence of DW/SSWO that "the TIE-ROD BALL JOINTS are shot at 8,000 miles or the DRAG LINK connections are loose or the TRACK BAR connections are loose and/or worn out." And still too many truck owners re-experience DW/SSWO after the TSB and/or several of these other things are implemented, replaced and repaired. I truly wish I were an engineer capable of evaluating all the mechanical elements that make up a Ford Super Duty front end. I desire even more that I could then develop a solution to the horrifying, and soon-to-be devastating and disastrous, occurrence of Death Wobble and Sustained Steering Wheel Oscillation.

I certainly hope that the problem does not exacerbate into the disastrous results of the last major problem that Ford, in conjunction with Firestone/Bridgestone, encountered before they were forced to figure out the nature of the problem. About 20 years ago there were a multitude of rollover accidents caused by tires blowing out. In this disastrous period, "Two hundred and seventy one people were killed and 823 people were injured in the United States as a result of these failures.[51] The large majority of accidents took place in California, Arizona, Texas, and Florida. An additional 46 people were killed in Venezuela. A large number of lawsuits were filed against both Ford and Firestone." Here's a link to a very detailed story on this disastrous debacle if you care to read about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firest...re_controversy.

For those of you who think this is blowing the DW/SSWO problem out of proportion, consider that there has been one reported significant injury to a driver's shoulder that required surgery to repair, this instance being reported in October 2018 to the NHTSA. Of greater concern, the number of close calls and near misses are accumulating at a frightening pace. Drivers are telling stories of their trucks "jumping" across multiple lanes", "swerving off the road and ending up in a ditch 40 to 50 feet off the roadway", "steering wheels jerking side-to-side with such force that only a strong man could hang on" and the one I have come to like the best - "I am NOT letting my wife drive this dangerous truck." That last one would be funny if the reason wasn't so serious. It greatly disturbs me to say the following given the truck that I am soon to be driving, but it is only a matter of time before fatalities occur. Lest you doubt this dire forecast, take the time to read the reports in the following link, most of which are best described as horrifying: Ford F-350 general Steering Problems - part 1.

Now I'm sure that there will be multitudes of Ford devotees who will chime in and defend the company against my protestations that the company has NOT identified the cause of the problem, has not developed a solution, and most certainly is not interested in alerting the public, particularly Super Duty truck owners, of this seriously dangerous potential problem. Consider the huge number of Super Duty truck owners who do not read this forum; they are most likely in the dark. I certainly would be if I had not stumbled across this forum during my research on 3/4 and 1-ton trucks. I doubt that Ford is placing WARNING STICKERS on the visors such as they do for other things that are much less dangerous to one's well being.

I for one hope that my truck, and me or my wife, never experiences DW/SSWO. The existing evidence strongly suggests that it is not something that afflicts every Super Duty truck. So maybe we'll be fortunate. At the least, we will know what is happening and how best to survive it should it rear its ugly head IN OUR FACES.

Originally Posted by ponyboy96