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Old 11-01-2018, 10:45 AM
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Manual recommends premium 92 octane for towing, ...
Man, thanks for the info. I missed that in the manual. I've been running nothing but 87 in the truck since day 1. Despite 2/3rds of its life (so far) towing our fiver. MPG has always been a concern when towing, as I'm only netting 200-240 miles or so between fill ups. I'm in constant fear of getting somewhere where I 'have' to get gas and there's no easy gas stations to fit the fiver through nearby.

 
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Nice Video//87/Vs Premium
 
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
Man, thanks for the info. I missed that in the manual. I've been running nothing but 87 in the truck since day 1. Despite 2/3rds of its life (so far) towing our fiver. MPG has always been a concern when towing, as I'm only netting 200-240 miles or so between fill ups. I'm in constant fear of getting somewhere where I 'have' to get gas and there's no easy gas stations to fit the fiver through nearby.
I misspoke a touch...manual actually says 91 octane for conditions like hot weather / towing. here is the page out of my 2019 manual. 87 is fine for normal use but.....those using 85 might want to reconsider. Ford could deny warranty coverage if they were able to prove you were using 85 octane and it causes an engine issue.

 
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Has anyone switched from 87 oct + 10% ethanol to 91 oct. ethanol-free?
 
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I use 87 minimum (usually Top Tier) in our 2019 F350 6.2 for running around “light”, and will switch up to 89+ when loaded, such as when carrying our truck camper. We used this model in our 2017 F350 6.2 and in our 2000 F250 5.4. My quasi-calibrated butt-o-meter noticeed a smoother idle from the 6.2, and the engine ran very well indeed during RV trips to the SW in the fall of 17 and the Spring of 18. The 5.4’s performance was greatly improved while towing.

I’m generally leery of claims or suggestions that higher AKI fuel will “improve performance” or fuel economy beyond a lightly-loaded baseline for an engine designed to operate on 87 AKI gasoline. However, I do believe that higher AKI fuel can restore some amount of performance lost to stressful operational conditions such as heavy loads and/or high ambient temperatures by allowing the engine to find better optimized ignition timing.

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I don't believe that the 4.6/5.4 adapted to higher octane ratings without tuning. That's what I'm wondering about the 6.2 though. To me, it reads as though it can adapt the timing MAP to higher octane ratings leveraging the knock sensor and probably others. I am hoping that this is a "full-time" across the board adjustment and not just under heavy loads.

I'm considering running 87 oct + 10% in the winter months and switching to 91 ethanol-free after the winter blend is gone. Will report back if I do.
 
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In our case, the 5.4’s specific improvement when using higher AKI fuel was noticeably reduced transmission hunting while towing.

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Originally Posted by JackalAR
I don't believe that the 4.6/5.4 adapted to higher octane ratings without tuning. That's what I'm wondering about the 6.2 though. To me, it reads as though it can adapt the timing MAP to higher octane ratings leveraging the knock sensor and probably others. I am hoping that this is a "full-time" across the board adjustment and not just under heavy loads.

I'm considering running 87 oct + 10% in the winter months and switching to 91 ethanol-free after the winter blend is gone. Will report back if I do.
It must depend on the year. I was doing an octane search for my 2016 F350 with the 6.2 and my owners manual says nothing about going to a higher octane fuel in the summer when it's hotter or when towing. It recommends 87 octane period. Did something change between the 2016 and 2017+ engines for the difference in octane information? I have no problem running a higher octane in the summer while towing our trailer, especially since I'm at 4000 feet, but in the 2016 if it won't make any difference there doesn't seem to be any point in spending more money?
 
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Ford revised the 6.2’s intake manifold and cam profiles starting with MY2017. No HP (385) or CR (9.8:1) change, but peak torque was improved (405 @ 4500 old to 430 @ 3800 new).

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