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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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78 SuperCab front end leveling

Just curious if there is a way to raise the front end of a 1978 SuperCab 2wheel drive without spending a small fortune and messing up the geometry of the I-beams?
just to level it?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 07:14 PM
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How much is it squatting? I don't know 2wd's well, but the two that I see regularly sit level. Which makes me think your springs are worn out. Perhaps just replacing with new stock height springs would level it.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 08:39 PM
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How much is it squatting? I don't know 2wd's well, but the two that I see regularly sit level. Which makes me think your springs are worn out. Perhaps just replacing with new stock height springs would level it.
That's what I plan on doing on my '79 supercab. I got a set of variable rate Moog Cargo Coil springs. CC808, about $80 from Summit Racing. I'll probably put them in in the spring, doing poly radius arm and I-beam bushing at the same time.

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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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The springs are about 3 years old and are moog.
the truck was originally a 400 ci and we replaced it with a 460 ci and also replaced the springs with 460 springs.
not much of a difference from each other considering the springs were put in as soon as the motor was swapped.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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F??? You could possibly get springs for the next model up...
 
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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Cool

the springs are the same for a 78 f150 with 460 as they are for a 400.
back to the drawing board!!!
 
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Would F150 4x4 springs be taller?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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It's possible, I may try that this weekend.
the f150 & f250 springs are the same part number.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 04:22 PM
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Lower the rear end two inches so the truck sits level... if that is what ya want.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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Don't want it lowered, I want to raise and level the front end
 
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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2wd E350 Diesel van coils from moog. You'll have to have your beams bent to correct camber. Search 2wd lifted F250, you can see what I have done.

I actually had to add 2 leafs to the rear.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 01:12 AM
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For most applications, the 4-wheel drive and 2-wheel drive coil springs are of a different design entirely (at the ends) so will not easily interchange.
And are possibly even a lot different in loaded and unloaded heights too. But the ends will be the first stumbling block to overcome.

Custom coils are not all that expensive though, when it comes right down to it. Or at least they didn't used to be. Haven't priced any out in years.
Seems to me though, that lifting the front of a 2wd Ford ANY amount over stock will require at least some other modifications. Whether bending, or using different brackets, steering linkage or whatever. I'm pretty sure it's not just a case of swapping springs.
Never done it though. Just going by how things look with the design.

Good luck.

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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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I tried fitting MOOG 808 springs to my SuperCab. They were 2 or 3" shorter than the old tired stock springs. Still living with the top of the tread just barely below the fender lip and taking care when entering my driveway so as to not tear anymore tread off the front tires. It;s the 7500 GVWR that makes it hard to find springs, plenty of options for <6500 pounds.

Michael
 
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 01:04 AM
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The moogs are great cause they are also progressive not linear. They ride very nice and still hold up the front end where it should.

So I used Moog CC860S. Meant for a 2wd diesel powered ambulance. Gave me the height I needed and as I was rebuilding the entire front end, i replaced all bushings with poly. Upgraded to longer grade 8 radius arm/ I-beam bolts(machined for longer thread engagement. Longer Stainless Steel brake lines and installed all new brake hard lines. New longer shocks, added a front and rear swaybar and install new poly bushings and extended links. Did new drilled and slotted rotors , rebuilt calipers new bearings. You done have to do all this, but if it's a keeper you should do it all at some point. Lastly the I-beam were cold bent( heats a no no) at a big rig shop. Good luck this is all your leg work done for you. One thing very important. The coils worked for me with the Hvy duty taller coil buckets, as mines a 250. If you have a 150 or light duty low coil bucket you will get too much lift from these coils, unless you have bent beams from Autofab or fabricate a set of bent and or lengthened beams. Good luck......Mo
 
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 01:06 AM
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2wd have steering box behind wheels????
 
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