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Here is the situation:
There were No instructions with the new writer.
New CDR Writer 32x10x40
Want to still use other CDROM
Both of these have Jumpers > Slave > Master > CSEL
Currently Cdwriter is D Drive
CDROM 44x is not hooked up (This is what the questions are eventually going to be about)
The Audio wire goes from Cd writer to board and speaker systems.
Now,I noticed that a ribbon wire runs from IDE Primary to C
rive then to CDR writer Drive
Another ribbon wire runs from somewhere to the Arive
I have a Y connector for power supply to run CDROM & CDR writer
Now for the questions.
Do I run another ribbon wire directly from CDROM to the IDE secondary connection?
Do I run an audio wire from CDRom? and if so, where to?
What jumpers do I have on both the CDROM & CDR writer ?
Which one is Slave & which one is Master or CSEL?
What ALL do I enable/disable if anything,in the bios on the CMOS to make it all work properly?
What is an IR and what does it do?
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There were No instructions with the new writer.
New CDR Writer 32x10x40
Want to still use other CDROM
Both of these have Jumpers > Slave > Master > CSEL
Currently Cdwriter is D Drive
CDROM 44x is not hooked up (This is what the questions are eventually going to be about)
The Audio wire goes from Cd writer to board and speaker systems.
Now,I noticed that a ribbon wire runs from IDE Primary to C
rive then to CDR writer Drive Another ribbon wire runs from somewhere to the A
riveI have a Y connector for power supply to run CDROM & CDR writer
Now for the questions.
Do I run another ribbon wire directly from CDROM to the IDE secondary connection?
Do I run an audio wire from CDRom? and if so, where to?
What jumpers do I have on both the CDROM & CDR writer ?
Which one is Slave & which one is Master or CSEL?
What ALL do I enable/disable if anything,in the bios on the CMOS to make it all work properly?
What is an IR and what does it do?
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Personally - I would never put a CD and a hard drive on the same ribbon cable in the first place.
What I would do Dennis, is to put both CD's on the secondary with one jumpered slave and the farthest one out on the cable jumpered as the master (I think that's how they go). The older one should probably be the master if your new one is only going to be used for files. Use the audio connections on the master as your main input to your sound card, and if your sound card permits connect the slave on the aux input line.
An IR is an infra red device.
An IRQ in the other hand is an Interrupt ReQuest. These are used for devices that share communication channels so that when one is "talking" another can acquire the channel or share it so that both units can do their job without being either cut out of the loop or causing interference with eachother.
If I'm not mistaken they have priority levels assigned in numeric order, which is why many people try to get the lowest numbered IRQ they can assigned to their modem's.
~Wolf
What I would do Dennis, is to put both CD's on the secondary with one jumpered slave and the farthest one out on the cable jumpered as the master (I think that's how they go). The older one should probably be the master if your new one is only going to be used for files. Use the audio connections on the master as your main input to your sound card, and if your sound card permits connect the slave on the aux input line.
An IR is an infra red device.
An IRQ in the other hand is an Interrupt ReQuest. These are used for devices that share communication channels so that when one is "talking" another can acquire the channel or share it so that both units can do their job without being either cut out of the loop or causing interference with eachother.
If I'm not mistaken they have priority levels assigned in numeric order, which is why many people try to get the lowest numbered IRQ they can assigned to their modem's.
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>Here is the situation:
>There were No instructions with the new writer.
>
>New CDR Writer 32x10x40
>Want to still use other CDROM
>Both of these have Jumpers > Slave > Master > CSEL
>
>Currently Cdwriter is D Drive
>CDROM 44x is not hooked up (This is what the questions are
>eventually going to be about)
>The Audio wire goes from Cd writer to board and speaker
>systems.
>
>Now,I noticed that a ribbon wire runs from IDE Primary to
>Crive then to CDR writer Drive
>Another ribbon wire runs from somewhere to the Arive
>
>I have a Y connector for power supply to run CDROM & CDR
>writer
>
>[b]
>Now for the questions.
>
>Do I run another ribbon wire directly from CDROM to the IDE
>secondary connection?
yes, one side of the ribbon will have a red stripe, it will go closest to the power connector on the CD drive. You can look at the
first IDE ribbon to see how the motherboard is orientated.
>Do I run an audio wire from CDRom? and if so, where to?
You can only use one of the drives for playing music cd's through your system, your choice about which one.
>What jumpers do I have on both the CDROM & CDR writer ?
I would leave the original as is behind the hard drive and setup the new one as master on the secondary IDE drive
>Which one is Slave & which one is Master or CSEL?
I think I covered that above
>What ALL do I enable/disable if anything,in the bios on the
>CMOS to make it all work properly?
You should just have to enable the secondary IDE controller. The computer might assign D:\ to the new drive since it'll be a master and move the old cdrom to E:\, I don't remember how this will play out.
>What is an IR and what does it do?
I don't remember, it's been a few years since I set up 2 cds in one machine
I'll be back online in about 13 hours if no one else jumps in.
When your done with the new install, check your others connections in there to make sure you didn't knock one loose, I lost A:\ drive one time and had to take the cover back off to plug everything back in.
>There were No instructions with the new writer.
>
>New CDR Writer 32x10x40
>Want to still use other CDROM
>Both of these have Jumpers > Slave > Master > CSEL
>
>Currently Cdwriter is D Drive
>CDROM 44x is not hooked up (This is what the questions are
>eventually going to be about)
>The Audio wire goes from Cd writer to board and speaker
>systems.
>
>Now,I noticed that a ribbon wire runs from IDE Primary to
>C
rive then to CDR writer Drive >Another ribbon wire runs from somewhere to the A
rive >
>I have a Y connector for power supply to run CDROM & CDR
>writer
>
>[b]
>Now for the questions.
>
>Do I run another ribbon wire directly from CDROM to the IDE
>secondary connection?
yes, one side of the ribbon will have a red stripe, it will go closest to the power connector on the CD drive. You can look at the
first IDE ribbon to see how the motherboard is orientated.
>Do I run an audio wire from CDRom? and if so, where to?
You can only use one of the drives for playing music cd's through your system, your choice about which one.
>What jumpers do I have on both the CDROM & CDR writer ?
I would leave the original as is behind the hard drive and setup the new one as master on the secondary IDE drive
>Which one is Slave & which one is Master or CSEL?
I think I covered that above
>What ALL do I enable/disable if anything,in the bios on the
>CMOS to make it all work properly?
You should just have to enable the secondary IDE controller. The computer might assign D:\ to the new drive since it'll be a master and move the old cdrom to E:\, I don't remember how this will play out.
>What is an IR and what does it do?
I don't remember, it's been a few years since I set up 2 cds in one machine
I'll be back online in about 13 hours if no one else jumps in.
When your done with the new install, check your others connections in there to make sure you didn't knock one loose, I lost A:\ drive one time and had to take the cover back off to plug everything back in.
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>What I would do Dennis, is to put both CD's on the secondary
>with one jumpered slave and the farthest one out on the
>cable jumpered as the master
I tried that one time and was getting a lot of errors when trying to copy on the fly from one drive to the other, what worked best for me was one cd drive on each IDE controller with the cdrw as the master on the secondary IDE controller. I guess milage will vary
>with one jumpered slave and the farthest one out on the
>cable jumpered as the master
I tried that one time and was getting a lot of errors when trying to copy on the fly from one drive to the other, what worked best for me was one cd drive on each IDE controller with the cdrw as the master on the secondary IDE controller. I guess milage will vary
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I would decidate both CDs to the secondary IDE. I found this setup works the best. I would make the CD writer the master and the regular CD slave. The reason for this, it would make the harddrive and CD writer work faster if they are on seperate channels. You can change the jumpers around with a needlenose pliers (be careful!)
Forget about the A: drive, they are a completey different thing. Floppies uses 34-pin ribbon cable. IDE/APATI drives uses 50 pins.
I would run the first plug to the CD writer on the top, and the regular reader on the bottom. Look for a sign on the pin/circut board/label that says "1" or an >. This tells you you should line up the ribbon cable with the red stripe on the either edge of the ribbon cable.
For the audio wires, trace the regular CD reader's audio wire to the motherboard if you have onboard audio. To one of the cards if you have a sound card. Once you have found it, see if it has another audio plug available. It should have two, or three. If it only has one which is already reserved, you have to decide which CD drive you want to use audio with.
For the power, you can use the Y power splitter if you wish or use both straight off the power supply. It doesn't matter. If your power supply is skimpy or has extremely low wattage, it may not have enough juice to power both CDs.
Forget about the A: drive, they are a completey different thing. Floppies uses 34-pin ribbon cable. IDE/APATI drives uses 50 pins.
I would run the first plug to the CD writer on the top, and the regular reader on the bottom. Look for a sign on the pin/circut board/label that says "1" or an >. This tells you you should line up the ribbon cable with the red stripe on the either edge of the ribbon cable.
For the audio wires, trace the regular CD reader's audio wire to the motherboard if you have onboard audio. To one of the cards if you have a sound card. Once you have found it, see if it has another audio plug available. It should have two, or three. If it only has one which is already reserved, you have to decide which CD drive you want to use audio with.
For the power, you can use the Y power splitter if you wish or use both straight off the power supply. It doesn't matter. If your power supply is skimpy or has extremely low wattage, it may not have enough juice to power both CDs.
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Put the CDs on the secondary IDE channel. Set the CD-RW to master and the other CD to slave. Where they are physically connected on the ribbon cable does not matter as long as one is set to master and the other to slave (unless you have one of the newer 80 wire IDE cables, and in that case the device on the end is master and the one in the middle is slave, could also use CSEL at this point, don’t, long story). You can put hard drives and CD-ROMS and zip drives on the same IDE channel, but this is not an optimal setup. New ATA 66, 100 and 133 drives have a through put that is much faster then most CDs and zip drives. If you mix these devices on the same IDE channel, the faster device will run at the same through put as the slower device. This of course defeats the whole idea of having a high speed hard drive. Also note that some CD burning software is picky about which channel the CD-RW is on. The default is generally the master position on the secondary IDE channel. As far as the audio hook up, check your sound card, usually they will have two inputs for audio. If not, make the CD-ROM your audio CD. As far as your BIOS, depending on how old your system is, you really shouldn’t have to do anything. Unless you want the system to boot from a CD-ROM (older system may not be able to do this) you’ll have to change to boot order in the boot up screen. Usually boot order in floppy, CD-ROM, hard drive, network device.
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>What is an IR and what does it do?
>
As greywolf said IR usually stands for InfraRed. It's a different type of I/O channel for peripheral connections. Works just like your TV remote, uses frequencies in the infrared area of the spectrum to transmit and receive data between devices. You'll also see it referred to as "IrDA" which stands for Infrared Device Attachment (if memory serves on a Monday morning). Most newer motherboards have a pin header built in for this but some machines don't come with all the necessary hardware for it to work.
BTW - some Dell, Compaq, and maybe Gateway? computers use the CSEL (cable select) jumpers instead of the more common master/slave setup. If your machine is one of these brands be sure to check the existing drives and see how they are jumpered to detrermine if they're using the CSEL option.
>What is an IR and what does it do?
>
As greywolf said IR usually stands for InfraRed. It's a different type of I/O channel for peripheral connections. Works just like your TV remote, uses frequencies in the infrared area of the spectrum to transmit and receive data between devices. You'll also see it referred to as "IrDA" which stands for Infrared Device Attachment (if memory serves on a Monday morning). Most newer motherboards have a pin header built in for this but some machines don't come with all the necessary hardware for it to work.
BTW - some Dell, Compaq, and maybe Gateway? computers use the CSEL (cable select) jumpers instead of the more common master/slave setup. If your machine is one of these brands be sure to check the existing drives and see how they are jumpered to detrermine if they're using the CSEL option.
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>Sound Card is a PC Chips BX pro Pentium II 100MHZ Bus (aka
>PC-100)
>Please Don't laugh,the price at the time was right.
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>Soundcard:
>Yamaha DS-XG Legacy
Do you mean the motherboard is a PC Chips BX pro and the sound card is a Yamaha DS-XG? Is the sound card built into the motherboard, or is it a separate card? I believe the Yamaha DS-XG is built into the motherboard.
Hey, if the price is right and it does what you want, what’s to laugh at?
>PC-100)
>Please Don't laugh,the price at the time was right.
>
>Soundcard:
>Yamaha DS-XG Legacy
Do you mean the motherboard is a PC Chips BX pro and the sound card is a Yamaha DS-XG? Is the sound card built into the motherboard, or is it a separate card? I believe the Yamaha DS-XG is built into the motherboard.
Hey, if the price is right and it does what you want, what’s to laugh at?
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They are seperate entities.
If I go into computer store and ask tech questions,they ask
what motherboard I have.When I reply PC Chips BX Pro PC-100,
they smirk and and try not to laugh,but I see'em anyway.They don't think I do,But I do.
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If we apply that attitude to our vehicles all those guys smirk and laugh at anyone that doesn't drive a Lexus - oh wait - they all drive Honda Civics and old Celicas because they're so low paid. They just want you to *think* they have a Lexus. And why are they low paid? They're sales people - only enough technical knowledge to get you to lay down your cash for the product. In most cases getting quality support is up to someone else - you.
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Well I hate to say it but PC Chips is an el cheap-o mobo maker. I've had the displeasure of working on a few computers with PC chips boards in them. Lousy, buggy driver support and poor chipsets. Basically poor mobo designs. There are a lot of Taiwan board and chip makers that make cheap boards and sale then to OEMs. You generally won't find their products on the shelves of you local computer store, but instead inside a pre build mail order system. They work fine until you open up the box and try to update them. But then again I'm a computer snob. I live in the heart of the Silicon Valley where Intel is king and AMD is making life hard for then (competition is a good thing!). I build all my systems from scratch, that way I get exactly what I want and need. Give me an Intel processor and chipset, lot of memory, nVidia based video card and Microsoft XP and I'm happy. See, I’m easy to please. 
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C'mon Dan where's the fun in that? ;-) Too safe... the PCChips (et al) are a challenge to keep 'em going. Sort of like driving any AMC product or a "collector" truck, so long as it gets you where you want to go today....
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Hmmmmmmm.. New Ford GT-40 or an old AMC that craps out every few hours. Oh I don't know, that's a tuff decision, let me think about for a few minutes......................
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