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Old Oct 21, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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Rear drum interchangeability

This is probably an ND question.
I just swapped a '72ish ford 9" under my '66. It fit perfectly. When I took the drums down to have them turned to clean them up, they referenced to a '79. They and the shoes are much beefier than the ones on my dana 44. Are they interchangeable or did someone do something funky?
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Old Oct 21, 2018 | 09:54 AM
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I would think you could use any brake that came off a 9" ,if you have the drum and backing plate to match.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by john jamieson
This is probably an ND question.
I just swapped a '72ish ford 9" under my '66. It fit perfectly. When I took the drums down to have them turned to clean them up, they referenced to a '79. They and the shoes are much beefier than the ones on my dana 44.
1961/67 F100's have 11" x 1 3/4" rear drum brakes. 1968/79 F100, 1975/96 F150, 1978/96 Bronco & some 1980/83 F100's have 11" x 2 1/4" rear drum brakes.

D4TZ-1126-A (replaced C8TZ-1126-A) .. Rear Brake Drum / Obsolete

1968/75 F100, 1975 F150.
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E4TZ-1126-B (replaced D6TZ-1126-A) .. Rear Brake Drum / Obsolete

1976/79 F100; 1976/86 F150; 1978/86 Bronco; 1980/83 F100 except with 10" x 2 1/2" rear brakes.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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Got out the ruler. 2 1/4" rear brakes.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Some other wierd things with this rear end. The shoes are only 2" wide and when I close things up and tighten up the lug nuts, Everything is bound up tight and won't move. Up until the last 1/6 of an inch things move freely.. Anyone have any ideas what maybe happening?
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 04:52 AM
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clean all the rust scale off the axle face and the inside drum face, that may cure the bind, if not the drum could be warped. Back off the shoes so they are real loose and see if it turns free. Or you can take the shoes off, tighten the lug nuts on the drum with no wheel and turn it to see if it is true.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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Thanks Eric, I tried backing off on the adjusters and now everything is bolting up normally. I'll be able to test things this weekend.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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If I remember right, the short shoe is installed forward. That looks backwards. The shoe with the thicker lining is the one that does more of the work. It goes to the rear.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 08:35 AM
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I didn't even think about the shoe orientation. They're mounted how they came when I got the axle. I guess P'll be taking things apart AGAIN.
LOL. I do get tired of the springs.
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In order to change to a wider drum, the corresponding backing plate has to be changed too. The backing plate will have a deeper offset (back towards the center of the rear end housing).

Putting a 2-1/4" wide drum on a backing plate meant for a 1-3/4" wide drum won't work.
 
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ultraranger is dead on. Even though those 68-72 housings will bolt right on there are a bunch of differences in them. The housings are narrower flange to flange, the bearing sits on the axle at a different location than the 65-66, and the backing plates are different. You need to check casting numbers and make sure all that stuff matches. My truck came with a 9 inch from a 68. The PO didn't know that and put 1 3/4 inch shoes on it. I suppose they worked a little but the mismatch had destroyed the backing plates.
 
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Originally Posted by Crop Duster
ultraranger is dead on. Even though those 68-72 housings will bolt right on there are a bunch of differences in them. The housings are narrower flange to flange, the bearing sits on the axle at a different location than the 65-66 and the backing plates are different.
9" axle shaft is the same 1957/67 F100: B7TZ-4234-A
 
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
9" axle shaft is the same 1957/67 F100: B7TZ-4234-A
That kinda basically what I said. I was pointing out since he said he had a 72 ish housing that they are not the same as the ones in our trucks other than sharing the same differential.
 
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Originally Posted by john jamieson
I guess P'll be taking things apart AGAIN. LOL. I do get tired of the springs.
john
While a well worn flat blade screwdriver with a notch in the end works, I bought a pair of brake spring pliers just to see how they worked. Lots of people try to use them as stretchers, that won't work. They make a cool sound installing them.. "Pop .. pop.. pop.. Ka-Sproing"

Yeah I'm easy to please. Joe Motohead showed me how:

https://youtu.be/MIyESaecC2s
 
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