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I wonder if it's a federal regulation type thing where the wording is such that they HAVE to show the backup camera mounted on the vehicle...
Think so... it is a federal requirement in 18 that all cars when in reverse have to have a certain size view of camera. I can see how a trailer camera would not fly under their rules.
 
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Like I mentioned...you can go to settings, vehicle, advanced settings, and de-select engine shutdown. The truck will run until it is out of fuel at that point. But if you shut the engine off and restrt, you will need to go into the menus and de-select again. That's why I assumed FORScan might be able to permanently disable this auto shut down.

I expect GM and RAM do the same. Ford isn't doing it just because they feel like it.
 
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I know I will get blasted for this but leaving your kids in a running vehicle is REALLY UNSAFE. And ileagle in meny states.
Firs is the CO problem. The wind just right, or multiple other things could cause a buildup of exhaust gas in the cab.
second, there are a lot of things that can happen inside a running car, a malfunction, or one of the kids waking g up and changing from max AC to max heat on a 100deg day could have very bad results.
like I said before, if you left you kids in the car in my state, you would be arrested and probably have your kids removed from your home till you realize locking your kids in a car, running or not, is dangerous.
there are lots of stories about people how have done similar, got distracted or fell asleep, and no longer have kids.
 
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Originally Posted by bobv60
I have found the opposite. If the truck is running when unplugged it will give the no trailer connected warning and keep putting miles on the trailer, and default to the towing page on startup.
with truck off it seems to select no active trailer on ownit's own.

I agree, the 2011 was much simpler. Once it shut off and restarted without a trailer connected, it would stop looking for a trailer and stop adding miles.
it also would give the no trailer detected if it lost connection while driving.
Originally Posted by Wayne64SS
Just as a tip if you unplug your trailer harness from the truck with the truck running it automatically selects "no active trailer" and this won't happen. If you unplug it with the truck off however it will think there's still a trailer attached and you'll get the annoying thing every time you start the truck until you manually select "no active trailer"
I've found the opposite as well. I usually unplug my RV while the engine is running. The question is has anyone with the issue had that TSB performed? And did it make the system behave like the 2011-2016 trucks?[/QUOTE]
 
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Is there an override for this? If not, this might be the shortest I’ve ever owned a truck.
Yes, there is a checkbox in advanced settings to deselect "auto engine shutdown". Or maybe its engine auto shutdown. something like that.

 
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The question is has anyone with the issue had that TSB performed? And did it make the system behave like the 2011-2016 trucks?
What TSB? Can you provide any details?

 
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What TSB? Can you provide any details?
See post #40.
 
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Originally Posted by bobv60
I know I will get blasted for this but leaving your kids in a running vehicle is REALLY UNSAFE. And ileagle in meny states.
Firs is the CO problem. The wind just right, or multiple other things could cause a buildup of exhaust gas in the cab.
second, there are a lot of things that can happen inside a running car, a malfunction, or one of the kids waking g up and changing from max AC to max heat on a 100deg day could have very bad results.
like I said before, if you left you kids in the car in my state, you would be arrested and probably have your kids removed from your home till you realize locking your kids in a car, running or not, is dangerous.
there are lots of stories about people how have done similar, got distracted or fell asleep, and no longer have kids.
Have a buddy whose wife left a sleeping newborn in her cherokee in the summer, just chatting a bit while dropping something off at a friend's house... engine blew, flames and everything, and totaled. No harm to the baby but man, tough lesson there...
 
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Originally Posted by bobv60
I know I will get blasted for this but leaving your kids in a running vehicle is REALLY UNSAFE. And ileagle in meny states.
Firs is the CO problem. The wind just right, or multiple other things could cause a buildup of exhaust gas in the cab.
second, there are a lot of things that can happen inside a running car, a malfunction, or one of the kids waking g up and changing from max AC to max heat on a 100deg day could have very bad results.
like I said before, if you left you kids in the car in my state, you would be arrested and probably have your kids removed from your home till you realize locking your kids in a car, running or not, is dangerous.
there are lots of stories about people how have done similar, got distracted or fell asleep, and no longer have kids.
He did say he was leaving the windows cracked, and the HVAC was on and drawing in fresh air. I really don't think the CO is going to be a problem. Is it a best practice to leave the kids in the car? Nope. A running vehicle is an incentive for a thief to break the window and drive away, for one thing. A vehicle malfunction is another....unlikely, but possible.
 
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He did say he was leaving the windows cracked, and the HVAC was on and drawing in fresh air. I really don't think the CO is going to be a problem. Is it a best practice to leave the kids in the car? Nope. A running vehicle is an incentive for a thief to break the window and drive away, for one thing. A vehicle malfunction is another....unlikely, but possible.
With the new diesels, if a truck was stopped during a regen, the VERY hot exhaust can be a problem.
 
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Originally Posted by bobv60
With the new diesels, if a truck was stopped during a regen, the VERY hot exhaust can be a problem.
In what way? Placing the transmission in Park immediately stops an active regen. But I've pulled into my driveway many times during an active regen and placed the transmission in Park and idled the truck for 10 minutes or so to let everything cool down. Nothing bad happens...in fact, idling the truck cools the exhaust parts quicker than just shutting the engine off immediately.

 
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Well I guess some on this forum wouldn’t want to see the video of my 3 year old juggling chainsaws or my 5 year old paddling out at mavericks. Side note: still going to dealer to ask em to fix this shutting off issue so I can “keep my vegetables cold if I’m too busy to do it when I first get home” from the store.
 
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
There is not a none option but unless they changed it for '19 you can select, "No Active Trailer" option, also try disconnecting with the truck turned off. When I restart mine after disconnect. It tells me "trailer Disconnected" and goes back to my default screen.
Mine does not work this way. Unless I disconnect the trailer with the engine running, it still thinks I have a trailer attached and keeps adding miles until I can go in and tell it that no trailer is attached.
 
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Another design complaint to add to my list: Having to RE-select "tow/haul" after every restart even when there is a trailer connected. This is dumb, and probably will contribute to some fried trannys and maybe a engine or two. Tow/Haul should stay selected as long as the trailer that was connected when tow/haul was selected remains connected.
 


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