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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 04:38 AM
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Diesel bug

Well last year I had the pleasure of using a 2017 F250 6.7 CC, LB for only ONE DAY, from HERTZ and I cant get my mind off of that engine. (truck was at body shop)

I love my 11' Silverado 2500 CCSB 6.0 gas but after looking at the 17' and 18' Crew Cab room in the back seat, I may have to start looking for one. The back just looks so much bigger than my Silverado.

I really don't tow much but I feel like having the diesel is something I have always wanted, even with the added expense and added extended warranty that I would absolutely get.
I found a crazy deal on a used CC DRW but its probably way overkill so I started looking for the setup I have now with the diesel. NEW 2018 CC SB SRW

Can someone chime in who went to Diesel and DIDN'T go back, and Visa Versa.

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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 04:58 AM
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You would not regret the 17-19 6.7L CC (either short or long bed) SRW. I came from an 05 F150 but also had owned a Chevy 2500 gas rig. Zero regrets. I have a family of 5 and spend many working hours on the interstate. In stock trim, this thing eats miles and cruises like a greyhound. The roll-on 70-90 is a force to be reckoned with. This truck is a blast to drive on the highway - a blast! It's a long-termer for me and I can't wait to powder coat the wheels, buy new tires, and upgrade the stereo. All in due time. No regrets.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:02 AM
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Again, I love my 2500HD 6.0, only have 40K miles, just leaves a lot to be desired. Putting the entire family in this truck gets a bit crammed.

I will also need this to commute. What mileage are you guys seeing in this truck ? SRW

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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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I'm not sure you will find a diesel owner (Of the 6.7) who spends any time thinking back to the day last ear they rented a gas truck.

I came from a 5.4 Expy. That engine would pull my travel trailer, but you knew it was there, and I spent all my my time balancing Speed vs Fuel usage vs the scream at 3500+ RPM. Yes, I know the RPM would not hurt it, and I know that it will drink to make the power, but it was uncomfortable to drive. With the 6.7, its locked in 6th, turning the same RPM as unloaded. The only indication the trailer is back there, is 2 or 3 extra PSI, and the only worry I have is the tires on the trailer are only rated for 65. Also with a 20 foot, 7000lbs full height trailer, I went from 8-9MPG at 60MPH to 12-13MPG at 65MPH. Its only been a year, but I'm not sure I could go back to gas.

Edit to answer the unloaded mileage question. I went with the 3.31 rear end rather than the 3.55 (because 925 FtLbs). From the meter on the dash I routinely see about 23 on the highway at 72MPH between regens. Regents pull that back to 17-19 for a full tank of fuel (hand calculated). the meter on the dash shows the lifetime average on the truck through 14,000 (about 10% towing) to be right at 17MPG.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:17 AM
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I made the change many years ago Due to the same reasons, I found a slightly used 2007 KR In 08 and made the mistake of “just going for a test drive”, needless to say I moved over from half ton gassers, I’ve never looked back.
I haul boats, mower trailers maybe the occasional flat bed with random garb. Nothing too crazy. I just love the look, feel, and power just cruising down the freeway. I commute 60 miles a day for work also.For it’s size, the ride and fuel mileage are great in my book. 3/4 ton will ride a bit more stiff as always for to have a truck this large and still get 15-20 mpg depending on driving habits is hard to pass up.
The new 6.7 will work circles around the old motors and certainly around any gas engine, and the back seat is huge, much larger than any Chevy I’ve owned or been in.

Just do it.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by harmanrk
Edit to answer the unloaded mileage question. I went with the 3.31 rear end rather than the 3.55 (because 925 FtLbs). From the meter on the dash I routinely see about 23 on the highway at 72MPH between regens. Regents pull that back to 17-19 for a full tank of fuel (hand calculated). the meter on the dash shows the lifetime average on the truck through 14,000 (about 10% towing) to be right at 17MPG.
Truck I may go look at has 3.55 gears
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mattymax
Truck I may go look at has 3.55 gears
Its a 7% change. that 17.0 lifetime average might become a 15.8. Just over a 1MPG difference. Not a whole lot to be concerned about.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 08:58 AM
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I've been in a diesel since 2005 and have never looked back. Spent many years overusing/abusing 1/2 ton pickups with too much trailer behind them. When the creature comforts of the 1/2 ton showed up in the 3/4 ton trucks it made the move seamless for me. The 3/4 ton diesel truck fits my random towing needs perfectly, is comfortable enough unloaded to drive daily and is absolutely a joy to take on long road trips. I've been in other guys gas trucks since and its always great confirmation of why I own a diesel. I don't think you'll find many guys that use trucks for trucks that ever go back to 1/2 tons or HD gas burners. Occasionally I will hear of guys going back to 1/2 tons and for those guys it likely is the best fit since they never tow anything and rarely use the truck for a truck if that makes sense. These guys would likely be better served with an SUV.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 09:19 AM
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I am a little different. I had two F150s (provided by a "client") as daily drivers; a 2013 and a 2015. Loved the trucks and they were excellent daily drivers. These were not my primary tow vehicles. I had bought an '07 F350 CCLB 6.0 diesel that I used to tow a 9K lbs 24' car hauler. Prior to the F350 I had an E350 (Clubwagon) with a 7.3 PSD.

As I said the F150s were great, the 2015 was as FX4 EB3.5 CCSB Lariat. Great truck. I would have never considered daily driving either of the diesel tow vehicles; the 7.3 Clubwagon or the F350 6.0. While both were excellent tow vehicles they left a lot to be desired as a daily driver. I also had various enthusiast cars to split the daily driving duties with the F150s.

The client provided F150s went away in early 2017 about the same time I was considering replacing the F350 (with 225K miles on it) and ended up trading the F350 on a '17 F250 CCSB FX4 6.7 Lariat. The 6.2 would have easily done the job towing my (new) 24' 9k lbs car hauler but after driving and towing with a 6.7 I was in love. The 6.7 is an amazing engine and it transforms the truck. I now daily the F250 about half the time splitting it with my car. The new truck is my wife's favorite vehicle, especially for long distance travel. Its as quiet and comfortable as any modern luxury car on the interstate and it eats interstate miles like nothing else. And the effortless power is addicting.

My truck has been flawless since I bought it in Sept of '17. It now has 17K miles. Mine has the 3.55 gear and Interstate mpg is about 18 at 75-80 mph, combined city/hwy is about 15-16. Towing at 70-75 mph is about 10 mpg.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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No regrets for me, I have had Chevy Suburbans since 1995 and just sold my 99 burb with the 7.4 gas and 4.10 gears. Loved my old truck, but my new 18 Lariat 6.7 is a beast. I upgraded travel trailer this year from a 22ft 4k lbs to 34ft 9k lbs. The Chevy pulled it fine, but worked hard and would drop to 45mph in 2nd gear going up steep grades at 7,000ft altitude. The new Truck stays at 65(or more), maybe drops into 4th, but so much more available power to pass. In a recent trip from bay area to Tahoe on Hwy 50 which is mostly a two lane road, I was the one staying to the left in the passing lanes to get around slower vehicles. Just touched the pedal and away it goes. Cant say enough about the tow/haul mode too. Combined, they make towing a pleasure.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 10:38 AM
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I had a
2014 F150 Lariat 4x4 w/3.5L ecoboost
2016 F150XLT 2WD W/2.7L ecoboost
2016 F150XLT 2WD w/3.5L ecoboost
2017 F350 Lariat Value pkg w/6.7L Diesel
2019 F360 Lariat Ultimate pkg w/6.7L Diesel

The 2016 F150XLT w/2.7L Ecoboost was the best daily driver around town. Light, nimble handling and peppy, but not much payload to tow with.

The F350 w/6.7L Diesel is the best for long distance travel, trailer towing and overall comfort. The only reason I traded the 2017 F350 in on a 2019 F350 was to get options like Adaptive Cruise, Adaptive steering, LED headlights, Blind Spot monitoring. The 6.7L Diesel is a great engine. I tow a 14,000 lb 5th wheel with it.

 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 07:09 PM
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Looking at a few online. Just having a hard time deciding between XLT and Lariet. I guess once I start going to look at them ill know better.

Ive had a no frills truck for five years so Im sorta used to no leather and no nav which is fine

 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mattymax
Looking at a few online. Just having a hard time deciding between XLT and Lariet. I guess once I start going to look at them ill know better.

Ive had a no frills truck for five years so Im sorta used to no leather and no nav which is fine
An XLT with the Premium Package is a VERY nice truck. The XLT seats are actually my favorite and the cloth is very good. You can get all of the useful options on the XLT and its a plenty nice truck. I was very close to buying an XLT that the dealer had in inventory. It was everything I wanted and at an attractive price. It just so happened they had a Lariat, without a sunroof, at one of their other locations that they were very happy to deal on.

As Lariats go mine is pretty basic. No sunroof, no adaptive steering or cruise, no BLISS, no 360 cameras, no rear slider window. All of which I have no desire for. I got it for nearly the price of the XLT I was considering. So it was to hard to pass up.

Do take a look at the XLTs. Properly equipped they are very nice and typically save you quite a bit over the Lariat.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 07:31 PM
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Question: In order to get the AUTO CLIMATE I would need to get the NAV or LARIET PACKAGE
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Its a 7% change. that 17.0 lifetime average might become a 15.8. Just over a 1MPG difference. Not a whole lot to be concerned about.
It won’t even be that. Your calculation assumes all losses are in the engine and of course they aren’t. I’d estimate 20-30% are. Other losses are aerodynamic, transmission/converter, brakes, tires, belt driven accessories.
 
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