6.2 F250 Towing Limitations 12000 vs 14000 GVWR

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Old 10-04-2018, 09:34 PM
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Take a look at Forest River wilcat maxx line of trailers. Lightweight and most are easily towed with a f-250. I have a 262rgx and have no issues pulling it with 3:73 gears in Washington state mountains. Larger wildcats are mostly well inside of your trucks capacity.
 
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We are pulling a 11,000 pound 5er with our F250 6.2 with 4.30's. No problem whatsoever. IMO, there is a bit of "hogwash" in some posts. We pull 6th gear 90% of the time. When the going is tough (wind, elevation, climbs), we will lock out 6th. 70 mph in 5th with 4.30's is only 2,700 RPM and it is nice and quiet. No thrashing. We are 600 pounds BELOW payload by the scale when all hooked up and loaded. We have pulled over Loveland pass and through the Eisenhower tunnel. Don't let people scare you off before you have even tried it. If it is not suitable to you, you can always change trucks later. The 6R100 is plenty robust for the task.
 
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We are pulling a 11,000 pound 5er with our F250 6.2 with 4.30's. No problem whatsoever. IMO, there is a bit of "hogwash" in some posts. We pull 6th gear 90% of the time. When the going is tough (wind, elevation, climbs), we will lock out 6th. 70 mph in 5th with 4.30's is only 2,700 RPM and it is nice and quiet. No thrashing. We are 600 pounds BELOW payload by the scale when all hooked up and loaded. We have pulled over Loveland pass and through the Eisenhower tunnel. Don't let people scare you off before you have even tried it. If it is not suitable to you, you can always change trucks later. The 6R100 is plenty robust for the task.

Thanks for the the info guys. Definitely gives me something to think about. Thought the decision would be more cut and dried. Bob might I ask what trailer you are pulling?

My main concern is getting the bigger trailer and being a few hundred pounds overweight on the truck.
 
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
We are pulling a 11,000 pound 5er with our F250 6.2 with 4.30's. No problem whatsoever. IMO, there is a bit of "hogwash" in some posts. We pull 6th gear 90% of the time. When the going is tough (wind, elevation, climbs), we will lock out 6th. 70 mph in 5th with 4.30's is only 2,700 RPM and it is nice and quiet. No thrashing. We are 600 pounds BELOW payload by the scale when all hooked up and loaded. We have pulled over Loveland pass and through the Eisenhower tunnel. Don't let people scare you off before you have even tried it. If it is not suitable to you, you can always change trucks later. The 6R100 is plenty robust for the task.

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My main concern is getting the bigger trailer and being a few hundred pounds overweight on the truck.
I know you are concerned about your 10K GVWR by one of your posts and you are still thinking that you will have 3100 on the pin.
The trailer you are looking has a GVW of 14K so the max pin will be 2800 or 20%, my trailer scales at 16K with 3200 on the pin and that's with a 5KW generator in the front compartment. My truck scales right around 11K with the (it has a 13.9K gross) trailer but it's a DRW with a 50 gal aux tank and a full load of fuel and loaded tool boxes so I highly doubt you will be over 10K, I carry a lot of tools.

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I just looked up the stats on the Eagle 321RSTS we are eyeing up and the numbers don’t seem too terribly bad. 10600 dry 12700 gvwr with a pin weight of right at 2000. On paper this is within the limits of the truck. The only thing that would potentially be over would be the pin weights and therefore the gvwr on the truck. With a little load planning we should be able to keep the pin within reasonable limits. This would only leave the whole leagaities issue at play in the event there is an accident.

I will be right at some of the weights. Depending on how much the wife wants to pack. Bad part about being right at the limits is I may not be able to bring all the tools I’d like to.
 
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Bob might I ask what trailer you are pulling?

My main concern is getting the bigger trailer and being a few hundred pounds overweight on the truck.
I'm pulling a Wildcat 29RLX. Dry weight 9,300. Dry pin 1,500
 
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I couldn't be without tools. Something always goes wrong. I boondock mostly so an equipment failure without tools means a long drive into town.
 
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That Jayco you mentioned may be a great compromise, and I have heard a lot of good things about them. A lot of times they even come with upgraded pin boxes and suspensions. I am also looking to get an RV, and GD and Jayco are at the top of my list. I am looking through this thread for close to the same reason that you started it.. My mistake was buying a midcsized truck a little over a year ago that couldn't even pull a 24' trailer, which is nowhere close to what I want. It could handle the weight (6k lbs), but it would probably get pushed around. This time I am making sure I do very thorough research before making any other purchases. At least I got a good enough deal that I am not upside down on my current truck. I want something similar to what you are looking at, but I need bunks for my kid and potential guests...
 
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"the stats on the Eagle 321RSTS we are eyeing up and the numbers don’t seem too terribly bad. 10600 dry 12700 gvwr with a pin weight of right at 2000."

That load is a much better match than your original load.
Myself, I'd allow for a (loaded) 25% calculation pin weight; too light a Pin weight may wag the trailer; and I'd suggest driving what you have before deciding on a gear change.

Feed it amply and the 6.2 will get 'r done.
 
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" My mistake was buying a midcsized truck a little over a year ago that couldn't even pull a 24' trailer, "

FRED: What is a midsize truck? I once owned, (easily) pulled a 24' / 5000 # (loaded) HiLo camper with a Honda Ridgeline.
Granted I used it where its generally flat lands, and the collapsing tops on the HiLo brand cheated most wind drag. You just need to match the two together.

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Army RET, I currently have a Nissan Frontier. Its rated at 6500lbs. The weight isn't a problem, it's actually pretty powerful for how small it is. Anything much over 25' long gets a little squirelly in it. I could probably make it work with a really good hitch like a Hensley, but I would prefer having something larger anyways. If we end up going the towable rout I've been looking at the f250 gasser with the 4.30 gears in it. That should handle most anything in our price range for the trailer. My kid however still wants a motorhome. She says she wants to be able to lay down and play games while we're traveling...
 
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She says she wants to be able to lay down and play games while we're traveling...
All the more reason to not get a motorhome. Kids these days bury their heads in games and phones and don't look up to see the beauty around us.
 
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Motorhome maintenance is definitely one of my fears. I have several friends with motorhomes and it seems they are always working on them. I realize trailers are far from perfect as well, but I feel I could handle more of those issues myself. Plus I just feel like you get far more bang for your buck with a trailer or 5th wheel.
 
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Motorhome maintenance is definitely one of my fears. I have several friends with motorhomes and it seems they are always working on them. I realize trailers are far from perfect as well, but I feel I could handle more of those issues myself. Plus I just feel like you get far more bang for your buck with a trailer or 5th wheel.
You absolutely do. Avoid motorhomes if you can. This is coming from an aspiring RV tech.
 


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