Settling for the gasser?
#166
01-12-2019, 12:50 PM
If everyone bought just what was NEEDED, there would be about 70% less trucks on the road, and those would be the XL models.
It's always interesting to listen to this argument, gas vs diesel. I've had both in Superduty. Diesel is awesome when it comes to power. Sometimes it's great for MPG, but as we all know that's a crap shoot, and nothing we can do about it.
Gas is way cheaper up front, and much less maintenance. In some areas, gas is the cheaper fuel, some it is not. Gas isn't normally going to rival the MPG's of a diesel, but again that isn't 100% certain.
For me, it was an easy calculation. My current TT is 5k pounds which I tow 10% of the time according to the towing app in my current F150 EB. We plan on upgrading trailers this spring to one around 8k, which will probably still get towed around 10% of my total mileage.
I just couldn't justify the added costs of a diesel in my scenario. The "wow" factor just wasn't worth it to me. And yes, I drove both rigs, more than once, I a variety of conditions.
Ordered a F250 6.2 CC 4X4 Lariat.
It's always interesting to listen to this argument, gas vs diesel. I've had both in Superduty. Diesel is awesome when it comes to power. Sometimes it's great for MPG, but as we all know that's a crap shoot, and nothing we can do about it.
Gas is way cheaper up front, and much less maintenance. In some areas, gas is the cheaper fuel, some it is not. Gas isn't normally going to rival the MPG's of a diesel, but again that isn't 100% certain.
For me, it was an easy calculation. My current TT is 5k pounds which I tow 10% of the time according to the towing app in my current F150 EB. We plan on upgrading trailers this spring to one around 8k, which will probably still get towed around 10% of my total mileage.
I just couldn't justify the added costs of a diesel in my scenario. The "wow" factor just wasn't worth it to me. And yes, I drove both rigs, more than once, I a variety of conditions.
Ordered a F250 6.2 CC 4X4 Lariat.
#167
01-12-2019, 02:27 PM
Don't forget to adjust for the cost of mid-grade or premium gasoline when towing, as suggested in the Ford owner's manual
"For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer. See Towing (page 272). "
"For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer. See Towing (page 272). "
#168
01-12-2019, 02:37 PM
Don't forget to adjust for the cost of mid-grade or premium gasoline when towing, as suggested in the Ford owner's manual
"For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer. See Towing (page 272). "
"For best overall vehicle and engine performance, premium fuel with an octane rating of 91 or higher is recommended. The performance gained by using premium fuel is most noticeable in hot weather as well as other conditions, for example when towing a trailer. See Towing (page 272). "
#169
01-12-2019, 03:12 PM
Posting Guru
I read a lot of threads on here about the 6.2 vs the 6.7, many negative on the 6.2..."you'll regret not having the diesel" "the loss of power in the hills/mountains is terrible", etc. etc. I just wanted to take a moment to provide some feedback for anyone who might be waffling between the two. I have a 2017 250, SCAB, LB, 6.2L, 3.73 gears. A few days ago we hitched up our Jayco Eagle 330RSTS travel trailer (scaled weight about 11.3K as ready for camping) and headed out from Chicago to our first destination, Moab UT. The flatlands of Iowa and Nebraska were pretty uneventful and even driving through the constant showers wasn't particularly stressful. We spent the night in Golden CO and headed out on I70 mid-morning. I've driven the mountain passes before, but never with a trailer. Heading out, based on feedback from this forum and the various RV forums I read, I thought I was making a huge mistake even attempting to pull this trailer over the Rockies.
I'm happy to report that when we stopped for lunch in Avon after finishing the toughest passes that I literally had a smile on my face with the performance of this truck. I kept it in manual, mostly in 3rd and just let the engine rev up and down the ascents and descents. Heading into Eisenhower tunnel and Vail pass I had to downshift to 2nd a bit to keep speed. Only dropped below 50mph when I got caught up behind slower traffic. Engine temp was same as always, trans temp peaked at 206. Once I got past Vail, I was able to put it back into D for the remainder of the trip. I'm probably not going to make this trip again any time soon, but I'm no longer worried about towing my camper in just about any situation. I will admit that I probably got 6.5mpg from Golden to Vail, but since I bought this truck to pull the camper but also have to use it for my daily commute, I'm so happy I went with the gasser as it doesn't seem to mind the short trips, has more cargo cap. and saved me 8K for a feature I would rarely take advantage of.
I'm sure there are plenty who need the 6.7 for their needs, but I just wanted to toss my support for a 6.2 with 3.73 gears being a great towing machine for what is probably a pretty large travel trailer.
I'm happy to report that when we stopped for lunch in Avon after finishing the toughest passes that I literally had a smile on my face with the performance of this truck. I kept it in manual, mostly in 3rd and just let the engine rev up and down the ascents and descents. Heading into Eisenhower tunnel and Vail pass I had to downshift to 2nd a bit to keep speed. Only dropped below 50mph when I got caught up behind slower traffic. Engine temp was same as always, trans temp peaked at 206. Once I got past Vail, I was able to put it back into D for the remainder of the trip. I'm probably not going to make this trip again any time soon, but I'm no longer worried about towing my camper in just about any situation. I will admit that I probably got 6.5mpg from Golden to Vail, but since I bought this truck to pull the camper but also have to use it for my daily commute, I'm so happy I went with the gasser as it doesn't seem to mind the short trips, has more cargo cap. and saved me 8K for a feature I would rarely take advantage of.
I'm sure there are plenty who need the 6.7 for their needs, but I just wanted to toss my support for a 6.2 with 3.73 gears being a great towing machine for what is probably a pretty large travel trailer.
#170
01-12-2019, 03:16 PM
#171
01-12-2019, 04:23 PM
#174
01-12-2019, 06:50 PM
Posting Guru
#175
01-12-2019, 08:30 PM
#176
01-12-2019, 10:09 PM
Posting Guru
I'm curious as well. I have a Lariat w/o the ultimate package and would like to have a heated steering wheel, along with those paddle shifters!
#177
01-12-2019, 10:28 PM
#178
01-13-2019, 06:54 AM
Lead Driver
My 2011 has about 6500 hrs on it now, just checked to see what the oil status was and I noticed that.
Uses no oil, no leaks, and runs/sounds great.
I sea foamed it through the vacuum and it was surprisingly clean. Still pretty much only likes mid grade gas though.
I need to sell it in a few weeks and if I can’t get 10,500 I’ll keep it.
Uses no oil, no leaks, and runs/sounds great.
I sea foamed it through the vacuum and it was surprisingly clean. Still pretty much only likes mid grade gas though.
I need to sell it in a few weeks and if I can’t get 10,500 I’ll keep it.
#180
01-16-2019, 12:29 PM
Laughing Gas
Or the title could be "Just another post where gassers converge to convince themselves they made a great decision".
okay, we get it. You bought a gasser. Can we go a week without someone starting a post looking for support to convince them they made a good decision? For the love of god, start a self help group in the general section or something. Have a gasser meet up where you all pat yourselves on the back for buying a gasser. Geez, if you need continued support about your purchase decision, it makes one wonder whether you made the right one.
The only question you should ask is "Is this truck right for me?", "Does it do what I need?" and "Can I afford it?". Not sure why there is such a need (as evidenced by the number of threads and posts) for people who bought gassers to continually justify their purchase? You've got a nice truck. Who cares what engine you have. i have joked about telling gassers to "move to the right when on mountain passes, but honestly, if you can afford to drive one of these (gas or diesel), you've probably done well for yourself. Congrats. Enjoy it and don't worry about what's under the hood. EOR
okay, we get it. You bought a gasser. Can we go a week without someone starting a post looking for support to convince them they made a good decision? For the love of god, start a self help group in the general section or something. Have a gasser meet up where you all pat yourselves on the back for buying a gasser. Geez, if you need continued support about your purchase decision, it makes one wonder whether you made the right one.
The only question you should ask is "Is this truck right for me?", "Does it do what I need?" and "Can I afford it?". Not sure why there is such a need (as evidenced by the number of threads and posts) for people who bought gassers to continually justify their purchase? You've got a nice truck. Who cares what engine you have. i have joked about telling gassers to "move to the right when on mountain passes, but honestly, if you can afford to drive one of these (gas or diesel), you've probably done well for yourself. Congrats. Enjoy it and don't worry about what's under the hood. EOR