So I was interested in what my "real" weights were with Red and the S&S. I know loaded and ready to camp we came in at 10,460...3,640 front and 6,820 rear...when we went on our 5 week Pacific NW run a few years back. Yesterday I weighed the rig without water, clothes, food, and people/dog and got 9,160...3,120 front and 6,040 rear. So today I dropped the TC off and weighed Red with 1 tank full and the other at 1/4, same as yesterday and got 5,740...3,000 front and 2,760 rear. That puts the S&S at 3,420, add 30 gallons of water, food, and clothes and we get 4,350. WOW, I knew the S&S was heavy, but I thought Red was around 6,300-6,500, I'm as heavy as the TC's with a slide out.

The S&S has a sticker that states wet weight at 3,050...that must be before ANYTHING was put on this thing....TC with water and propane only, no jacks, brackets, A/C, mattress, window treatments, nothin, completely stripped.

Hope this helps someone down the road who is contemplating getting a TC. The manufacture weights are a bit low for reality...LOL

 

Here's my empty and loaded weight tickets a few hours apart.
Empty: '17 F450. Driver, normal tools, no TC tie down brackets. (Rickson wheels and 285s (155lb ea, so a little heavier than stock)).
Loaded: 2013 AF 811, wet and fully loaded for boon docking, black and grey empty, lots of food and beer, 3 adults and 2 dogs.

AF 811 has a sticker wet weight of 3,200 lb. Actual cargo weight once fully loaded ~6,000lbs.

 

Dang....that rucks heavy!

 

I am so glad I bought the F450 after reading this. Wow.

 

Just wanted to let everyone know how heavy they really are.

 

 

Amen to that.....according to my axles, I max out at 11,650 and that's all I and DOT care about.

 

Yup, sticker weights don't mean crap. We borrowed a '04 Adventurer for our trip to AK from a friend. The sticker said dry weight was 1560 lb. This was a very basic 8' model that only had a 22 gal fresh water tank and who know what black tank because our friend asked us not to us it. No worries, we (and they) used the toilet room for storage. I figured we were golden as far as GVW goes. No way we could ever be over 11,500 lb. I had weighted the truck before we left and it was around 8300 lb. We merrily drive 4400 miles to AK and back. No issues at all. We get back to SLC and hit the Costco for food and fuel. Yes, our Costco has diesel. I say to my wife, "Hey, let hit the CAT scale to see where we're really at." 12,200 lb. Whaaat!! How can that be? Yes we had a bunch of other folks and our own river trip gear, but really, how much could that be? 300 lb. max maybe? It was a shock for sure.
Fast forward to last month. We really fell in love with the mobility of TCs. We loved exploring remote areas and camp grounds on our way back from AK thru BC and WA, MT, etc. We weren't planning on buying one till Spring, but an '13 Adventurer 910 came across our radar and we bought it. The owners sent us photo of the sticker that said 3060 lb and also appeared to say that included 44 gal water 40 lb of propane, etc. OK heavier than we wanted, but we really like the layout. There was no options build sheet in a cabinet as we had read somewhere that there should be, so I contacted Adventurer to see if we could get one. No problem. They sent us one and the dry weight with options is 3672 lb. Ruht-row! Wheels in head turning.

 

And of course you saw the fine print on their brochure that you, NOT THEM) is responsible if you go overweight. The one I find really amusing is Norhtand's Wolf Creek which is supposedly their light weight model and it says in fine print on the brochure they recommend a dually to haul it.

 

Yup we had an AF1140 on a 1995 F350 CC 4x4 SRW...talk about overweight.....we were at 10,730 on a 8,800 GVWR. We upgraded the rims/tires/suspension but ended up with a Dodge CTD Dually...it was overweight also, but drove 1000% better.