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Old 08-11-2018, 09:32 AM
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International / Ford Engineer better pray I don’t meet him in a dark alley.

Thought this would be a fun stress relief. After my recent engine replacement and my emergency Parker fuel sleeve replacement before camping today, I figured I would see what you guys thought.

We all know working on our trucks that some things are a real pain in the butt. And at the time we are frustrated we would probably have a few not so nice words to say to the people who designed these locations. And sometimes we think that obviously these designers never have to work on there own cars or they wouldn’t design them this way.

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**** I totally understand the fact that there is only so much room and they have to make it work in those parameters they are given, and by NO MEANS CONDONE any bodily harm to be done ****

Here are a few of my top ones.

1. IPR location (I mean what the heck??)
2. Parker fuel sleeve fitting locations on the fuel rails
3. Baby’s butt clearance/clamp location
4. Removal of engine to replace oil pan


That should get the ball rolling. What do you guys think?
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:41 AM
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Fuel strainer tubes in the tank...

Non-bellowed up-pipes...

Passenger side fuel pipe clamp...

Power steering hose that runs on shock bracket...

ZF6 reverse gear ratio... really... who wants to do 20 MPH in reverse...

Those are what I could think of right off the top of my head.
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:51 AM
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1. Power steering line hitting the IC tube, more so they made a dent as a "fix".
2. Outdated power steering pump
3. No cabin air filter
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:21 AM
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  1. Having to remove the front hubs to lube the bearings vs a grease zerk
  2. ​​​​​​Stock air filter box
  3. U joints with no grease zerks
  4. Poorly soldered resistors in overhead compass/thermometer/mpg display
  5. All the poor design elements of fuel tank to injectors requiring Hutch/Harpoon, FRx mods
  6. The 2 front cup throwers, and 2 rear snap on cup holders for a total of only 4 cup holders in a 6 seater crew cab
  7. Power steering hitting IC tube
  8. Zf6 Reverse gear ratio
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:56 AM
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You ingrates only think you have it rough, try your hand at working on an E model and you'll change your attitudes!!!!
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:37 PM
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I would go with bellowed uppies, the stock air box and fuel tank mods
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
You ingrates only think you have it rough, try your hand at working on an E model and you'll change your attitudes!!!!
Between having an E series AND seadoo boat, 1 can only imagine the size bowl you dust at night....lol
....worm clamps on the plenums?
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
You ingrates only think you have it rough, try your hand at working on an E model and you'll change your attitudes!!!!
Very true. We used to run the van fronts on our ambulances. Looked over the shoulder of one of the motorpool mechanics changing belts. I said no thank you and walked away. We run full-size freightliners now.
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:41 PM
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Air

The stock air box. I recently upgraded to the AIS. But all they needed to do was add some extra snaps on the side of the stock one.

The fuel bowl lid . I know I sound like an idiot but some times hard to get it to seal .

 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
…..E model.....
I have sent you a PM.
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:45 PM
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Most of my list has already been said but I’ll add a couple:

1. The stock transmission cooler. What it it rated for...17K or something like that? For a 20K GVWR truck? Really??!?

2. The A/C that won’t cool the interior of a Chevy Sprint. I know some have good A/C but most of us suffer from back sweat at anything over 80F outside (even with my heater cutout valve).

3. The lower alternator bracket. It makes doing anything over there impossible (e.g. remove the EBP tube or sliding the A/C bracket for more room to work with the VC).

4. The A/C condenser. If that was somewhere else I wouldn’t dread removing that VC or working on #5 or #7 injectors.

5. Rear oil rail plugs. O-rings wear out and the ports should be serviceable with the engine installed.

I know that more than one group has their fingers in the production pie (bean counters, management, engineers, regulators) but I think a lot of my gripes would have been solved with a forward tipping front (like medium duty trucks and big rigs) instead of a hood.

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You ingrates only think you have it rough, try your hand at working on an E model and you'll change your attitudes!!!!
why do you think I have an “F” instead of an “E”?

We had a Class C motorhome when I was growing up. Spent many hours with my dad working on that Chevy 350 (some people watched football with their dad, I worked on cars with mine). It was nice to remove the cowl and work on the back side but everything else about it sucked! I don’t do vans any more or transverse mounted engines. Luckily my wife doesn’t like cars so no more FWD at my house!

Great thread! Love the title. Reps sent.
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:07 PM
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1. The fuel bowl heater on the same #@$*&$# fuse as the PCM. To top it off that means it only tells you it's a problem when it's REALLY cold.
2.on a 2wd the top nut for the front shocks
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:44 PM
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Stupid huge turning radius
 
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:11 PM
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Worst part is that the stupid engine lasts so damn long and is so much nicer to own than the newer ones you'll feel compelled to replace all these pain in the butt parts rather than buy a newer truck.
 
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One of the things you're not considering is: these units were never designed for Pick-Up Trucks. If you've ever worked on a Bus or similar you would think they were a breeze. These are so down tuned you wouldn't believe it. For the time, these were the Workhorse of the Industry. I.H. made a Fortune!

Sure the system by today's standard is archaic. But, in the 90's, these platform were an owners dream.. Ford / Navistar did do several running changes to include the DIT.

If you ever worked on an early 90's model, you wouldn't complain about the DIT being stuffed in.

This is how Ford maintained their Sales as the #1 Truck in America for several decades. So much so, Chevrolet and Dodge were left behind and played catch up.

Just say'n.
 


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